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Russell Bull
09/09/05 17:39
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#100885 - Persistance is a virtue
Responding to: Jeff Corr's previous message
Jeff, I admire your persistance. I think what has raised the ire of many of us is that you have steadfastly refused to take our advice. What your trying to do is relatively straightforward, but you have made it infinitely harder for yourself by ignoring some basic principles. Firstly, there's plenty of existing code that works available on the web for doing your serial comms - get the basics working first. Then you can build on this. Whenever I'm trying a new microprocessor, the first thing I normally do is get it to flash a led and send stuff out the serial port. If I can't get that happening, then its worthless to continue. I then procede a task at a time, if I have a lcd, then I get the lcd operating. Once I have my basics operating, then I start to knit everything together. If something doesn't work, I take a step backwards and look to resolve it. If I get stuck with a problem at least I have narrowed it down.

Your example of getting a jet engine to work - jet engines are fundamentaly simple. Air goes in one end, some fuel is burnt and the hot stuff comes out the other end. I would liken your micro efforts to trying to fire the combustor without getting the oil pressure happening. I'm sure you know that having no oil pressure is certain death to the jet engine (as it is to most engines). My point here is concentrate on the fundamental issues, then look at the greater picture. You'll find your efforts will converge much faster. For a while I didn't understand the operation of the combustor in a jet engine until I read the the air is moving faster than the flame can burn, therefore you have to slow down part of the air flow for it to burn and heat the majority of the air flow. Imagine if I tried making a combustor without that fundamental knowlege. I could have persisted for years. If you're not converging in on the problem, then stop, have a read and try something new.

I won't wish you luck in your endeavours as no luck is involved - more like good judgement. As for trying 16bit PWM, the numbers may sound good, but the reality might bite you! Theres no magic involved in this stuff, especially if you understand how it works.

List of 85 messages in thread
Laser system serial port com      Jeff Corr      09/02/05 01:25      
   MHz?      Oliver Sedlacek      09/02/05 01:32      
      11.059      Jeff Corr      09/02/05 01:54      
         also...      Jeff Corr      09/02/05 01:55      
   Even more... anybody got any ideas?      Jeff Corr      09/02/05 02:30      
      Values in      Anders Sandström      09/02/05 02:58      
   text???      Jan Waclawek      09/02/05 03:14      
      thanks so far      Jeff Corr      09/02/05 05:29      
         Back to basics      Andy Neil      09/02/05 05:53      
         Oh, come on...      Andy Neil      09/02/05 06:45      
      "Program" or "Code?"      Andy Neil      09/02/05 11:01      
   Oh dear...      Andy Neil      09/02/05 03:57      
   Fundamental Comms Problem      Andy Neil      09/02/05 04:05      
   Serial Code - Doomed!      Andy Neil      09/02/05 04:23      
      this is getting ridiculous      Erik Malund      09/02/05 06:13      
         learning process      Jan Waclawek      09/02/05 06:21      
            oh well      Erik Malund      09/02/05 06:54      
               agreed - waiting for the real stuff :-)      Jan Waclawek      09/02/05 06:58      
            cart before horse      Andy Neil      09/02/05 07:03      
               weekend approaching?      Jan Waclawek      09/02/05 07:34      
                  sure we can, but then why do you say the      Erik Malund      09/02/05 07:55      
   this belong in the chat, but since it is      Erik Malund      09/02/05 11:07      
      hrm      Jeff Corr      09/02/05 12:10      
         make an effort do not "whip up some code      Erik Malund      09/02/05 13:36      
            facts & emotions      Jan Waclawek      09/02/05 14:50      
               k      Jeff Corr      09/02/05 15:29      
                  Good luck with the 430's      Russell Bull      09/02/05 18:20      
                     int      Jeff Corr      09/02/05 18:44      
                        Slight misconception.      Andy Neil      09/03/05 02:13      
                           Next step      Andy Neil      09/03/05 02:39      
         -1 provocative troll      Terry Lingle      09/02/05 17:25      
            read      Jeff Corr      09/02/05 18:50      
               which derivative?      Jan Waclawek      09/03/05 07:20      
                  dallas      Jeff Corr      09/04/05 00:37      
                     DS89C420      Jan Waclawek      09/04/05 03:55      
                        system im using      Jeff Corr      09/04/05 08:49      
                           int      Jeff Corr      09/04/05 09:28      
                              Process      Andy Neil      09/05/05 00:04      
                                 Why do you persist      Erik Malund      09/06/05 09:02      
                              2 byte protocol      Robert Revens      09/05/05 03:24      
                                 Intersting, but...      Andy Neil      09/05/05 04:50      
                                    very interesting      Jeff Corr      09/05/05 19:33      
                                       How to proceed      Andy Neil      09/06/05 00:02      
                     a problem and a suggestion      Erik Malund      09/06/05 09:00      
   Problems many & varied      Russell Bull      09/05/05 20:46      
      Begin at the beginning!      Andy Neil      09/05/05 23:59      
         started again      Jeff Corr      09/06/05 00:31      
            Re: started again      Hans Van Pelt      09/06/05 01:07      
               ah crap.      Jeff Corr      09/06/05 01:18      
                  ah my eyes!      Hans Van Pelt      09/06/05 01:36      
                     continued..      Jeff Corr      09/06/05 01:47      
                        Second UART      Hans Van Pelt      09/06/05 01:58      
                           int vector      Jeff Corr      09/06/05 02:33      
                              Look at the datasheet !      Steve M. Taylor      09/06/05 02:37      
                                 yup      Jeff Corr      09/06/05 03:37      
            serial port 1 interrupt vector      Jan Waclawek      09/06/05 02:06      
               okay      Jeff Corr      09/06/05 02:41      
                  Still not OK      Hans Van Pelt      09/06/05 03:18      
                     ISR reset      Jeff Corr      09/06/05 03:41      
                  take rest      Jan Waclawek      09/06/05 03:18      
                     rest........      Jeff Corr      09/06/05 03:43      
                        STOP      Steve M. Taylor      09/06/05 04:07      
                        just to be sure...      Jan Waclawek      09/06/05 04:09      
                           man int triggering      Jeff Corr      09/06/05 05:48      
            Craig, please remove this thread this is      Erik Malund      09/06/05 09:05      
               Request        Craig Steiner      09/06/05 09:16      
   num      Jeff Corr      09/06/05 07:32      
      again      Jan Waclawek      09/06/05 07:57      
         Thanks ALOT Jan !!      Jeff Corr      09/06/05 11:11      
            works, so now do the reading      Jan Waclawek      09/06/05 14:46      
               serial port int      Jeff Corr      09/07/05 20:41      
                  transmit      Jan Waclawek      09/07/05 23:15      
                     transmit      Jeff Corr      09/08/05 08:53      
                        Oh dear      Donald Catto      09/09/05 09:55      
                           I dont give up.      Jeff Corr      09/09/05 16:22      
                              er      Steve M. Taylor      09/09/05 17:31      
                                 brains?      Jeff Corr      09/10/05 08:19      
                                    Or lack thereof...      Donald Catto      09/12/05 06:45      
                              Persistance is a virtue      Russell Bull      09/09/05 17:39      
                                 basics      Jeff Corr      09/10/05 08:22      
   updated      Jeff Corr      09/14/05 18:48      
      Solve i problem at a time      Russell Bull      09/15/05 01:44      
   one more problem knocked down      Jeff Corr      09/16/05 00:32      
      PWM spoiled by Rx      Jan Waclawek      09/16/05 03:51      
         lines      Jeff Corr      09/16/05 13:45      

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