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Craig Steiner
11/04/08 21:00
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Denver
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#159677 - NEW WEBSITE DESIGN
As you can see a new version of the 8052.com Website has been installed. I've been working on this new version, off and on, since February of this year. At this point I think it's good enough for an initial public release.

I suspect there will be quite a few problem reports as, so far, the site has only been tested by a handful of beta-testers (thanks, guys!). With thousands of people now using this new version of the site I'm sure many additional issues will be discovered. If you find a problem, please report it in this thread. Hopefully we can get the quirks out of the system quickly.

If any serious problems arise I may switch back to the old system temporarily until I have time to fix the problems. Hopefully that won't be necessary.

Notable changes:
  1. Clean Appearance. I think the new website itself looks and feels much cleaner. This was the original intent of the rewrite, along with starting with essentially new code and cleaning things up. In order to maintain compatibility with the old code I didn't rewrite all the code, but most of the code is new and better organized.

  2. Non-Scrolling Sections. The top and left sidebar should now be non-scrolling. That means even though you scroll the content, the top and left sidebar should always be visible. This should make navigating easier as all functions will always be on-screen.

  3. Users Online. You must be logged in to see the users online. To see the users online when you're logged in, move your mouse over the number of "visitors online" displayed in the upper left of the screen.

  4. CSS/Stylesheets. The website now uses CSS/stylesheets extensively. The upside to this is that most pages should load faster because more of the formatting only needs to be loaded once from the CSS file. The downside is that CSS is implemented rather inconsistently across browsers. That means what may work on one browser might not work on another. To-date the system has been tested with Firefox 2, Firefox 3, IE6, IE7, Opera 9.5x, and the latest version of Safari for Windows. The site works best with Firefox 3 but should work adequately on all of the others in thist list. According to website logs, those browsers represent the vast majority of those used by visitors to the site. If you detect any problems--especially any that render the site unusable--please be sure to describe the problem and let me know your browser version and operating system.

  5. My Account/My Home Page Enhancements. The "My Account" and "My Home Page" functions have been enhanced by implementing a tabbed interface.

  6. Message Links. The message links for messages have changed from http://www.8052.com/forum/thread.phtml?thread=159552 to http://newbeta.8052.com/forum/thread/159552. Links to messages in existing messages should automatically be translated to the new format when they are clicked on so we shouldn't end up breaking any links. In fact, most of the site has been updated to use a directory-based linking system rather than using specific filenames and HTML parameters.

  7. Expandability. The old site was an 11-year old mass of code that had been patched and modified over time. This patchwork of code made it very hard to expand or modify the system in anything approaching "clean" but rather demanded "hacks" and "workarounds" that just got messier and messier. The new site obviously addresses that so that, in theory, things I want to do going forward will be easier to do... and do right.

  8. Other Features. There are other features that are implemented in the new version but which are not yet being utilized. I will mention them if/when they are used.

Something that hasn't been implemented yet is the 8052.com-centric search function that was removed some time ago. That will be implemented soon. Without going into technical details, it was pretty much necessary to implement this new system before implementing the more efficient site search. For now the 8052.com search in the top area of the screen will continue to access Google. But once this new system seems to be essentially stable, I'll go ahead and develop the code for the site-specific search.

Again, if you run into any problems please let me know.

Regards,
Craig Steiner
8052.com Webmaster

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TopicAuthorDate
NEW WEBSITE DESIGN      Craig Steiner      11/04/08 21:00      
   Some comments      Per Westermark      11/04/08 21:54      
      New site      Craig Steiner      11/04/08 23:06      
         Response      Per Westermark      11/04/08 23:54      
         Display jumping      Andy Neil      11/05/08 01:21      
            Same here      Matthias Arndt      11/06/08 00:54      
               Forward or backward return to thread list?      Per Westermark      11/06/08 01:34      
               Still?      Craig Steiner      11/06/08 10:17      
                  Yes, it has gone away!      Andy Neil      11/06/08 13:46      
                     same here      Matthias Arndt      11/07/08 00:48      
      Additional changes      Craig Steiner      11/04/08 23:32      
   Congratulations Craig!      Raghunathan      11/04/08 22:25      
   I like it!      Richard Erlacher      11/04/08 22:35      
      Contrast      Craig Steiner      11/04/08 22:43      
         Really nice looks, cheers..!!!      Mahesh Joshi      11/04/08 22:48      
         1 question to craig      Mahesh Joshi      11/04/08 23:00      
            Use of shift when registering account?      Per Westermark      11/04/08 23:04      
            Capitalization      Craig Steiner      11/04/08 23:13      
   Help Creating My Home Page      Mahesh Joshi      11/04/08 23:45      
   Follow up on "read" state      Per Westermark      11/05/08 00:08      
      Read state      Craig Steiner      11/05/08 00:18      
         Contrast + read state      Per Westermark      11/05/08 01:02      
   Problems with scrollbars      Andy Neil      11/05/08 00:51      
      Scrollbars fixed!      Andy Neil      11/06/08 13:50      
   Printable view does not work      Matthias Arndt      11/05/08 01:23      
   nice...      JecksonS Ben      11/05/08 01:46      
   subject list too small      Mahmood Elnasser      11/05/08 02:38      
      two more comments      Alan Dorman      11/05/08 04:32      
         Index page can be blocked from indexing.      Per Westermark      11/05/08 04:42      
      Subject list too small      Craig Steiner      11/05/08 20:03      
         Different font size for different parts of layout      Per Westermark      11/05/08 21:01      
         bigger font      Mahmood Elnasser      11/10/08 06:23      
            Font size      Craig Steiner      11/16/08 10:27      
               Font Size - Reader gets to pick!!      Michael Karas      11/16/08 15:15      
                  Missing the point      Per Westermark      11/16/08 19:15      
                     Font size fixed?      Craig Steiner      11/19/08 23:09      
                        Perfect for me      Per Westermark      11/20/08 03:18      
   Nice Idea, needs minor fixes      KONSTANTINOS L. ANGELIS      11/05/08 05:30      
   a minor nuisance      Erik Malund      11/05/08 07:07      
      New messages      Jon Ledbetter      11/05/08 08:00      
      IE bug      Craig Steiner      11/05/08 20:06      
         No      Per Westermark      11/05/08 20:52      
   unnecessary clicks      Erik Malund      11/05/08 07:47      
      User account      Jon Ledbetter      11/05/08 08:04      
         I do not want to do that      Erik Malund      11/05/08 10:04      
            Works great with unified viewing      Per Westermark      11/05/08 11:27      
   Link highlighting?      Richard Erlacher      11/05/08 09:10      
      https instead of http?      Per Westermark      11/05/08 09:13      
         That's correct      Craig Steiner      11/05/08 09:29      
            I can't find      Erik Malund      11/05/08 10:05      
               Top of screen      Craig Steiner      11/05/08 10:15      
   Missing Link      Jon Ledbetter      11/05/08 11:28      
      Update?      Craig Steiner      11/05/08 12:31      
         Noob Guide      Jon Ledbetter      11/05/08 12:57      
   Auto-read own posts      Per Westermark      11/05/08 11:30      
      Agreed      Craig Steiner      11/05/08 12:29      
   Home page      Maarten Brock      11/05/08 12:33      
   Changes this evening      Craig Steiner      11/05/08 21:12      
      No jitter      Per Westermark      11/05/08 21:37      
      Upper Three Button ForeColor      Michael Karas      11/05/08 22:26      
         Yellow is best      Per Westermark      11/05/08 23:00      
            I have to agree      Richard Erlacher      11/05/08 23:06      
      Post / Preview      Michael Karas      11/05/08 22:33      
         Enforce Preview before Post      Andy Neil      11/06/08 14:23      
            mandatory preview before Post becomes possible?      Andy Neil      12/01/08 02:00      
   May I Ask...      Michael Karas      11/05/08 22:53      
   2 Suggestions      Mahesh Joshi      11/05/08 23:02      
      Thought about hat      Craig Steiner      11/06/08 18:23      
         Use email address...        Michael Karas      11/06/08 22:13      
            I say so      Jan Waclawek      11/07/08 01:15      
               email address is fine      Maarten Brock      11/07/08 11:45      
   Sticky Click      Michael Karas      11/05/08 23:15      
      one more thing      Erik Malund      11/06/08 06:41      
         Not sure what that means      Craig Steiner      11/06/08 18:31      
            yes      Erik Malund      11/07/08 05:25      
   Highlighting of last contribution?      Kai Klaas      11/06/08 06:46      
      if I understand you correctly      Erik Malund      11/06/08 07:06      
         What would be wrong...      Kai Klaas      11/06/08 07:19      
      Last post in thread list?      Craig Steiner      11/06/08 18:33      
         Yes!      Kai Klaas      11/07/08 03:32      
   Suggestion: Buttons      Andy Neil      11/06/08 13:59      
      "Inser Code" button still confusing - and preview      Andy Neil      12/01/08 01:57      
         Agree to disagree      Per Westermark      12/01/08 04:10      
            On balance      Andy Neil      12/01/08 04:42      
         Preview before post      Craig Steiner      12/02/08 20:06      
            change button text maybe      Maarten Brock      12/03/08 14:56      
   Weird sequence      Maarten Brock      11/06/08 15:43      
      Moved post?      Andy Neil      11/06/08 18:16      
         Exactly      Craig Steiner      11/06/08 19:09      
   Changes 11/06/2008      Craig Steiner      11/06/08 19:15      
      The text box not needed due...      Michael Karas      11/06/08 22:20      
   Thank you for the quick corrections      Per Westermark      11/07/08 04:41      
   Font size is very small even in 1024X768 and 15"      Pathipati Haribabu      11/08/08 09:46      
   Opera - Thread list is centered      Marshall Brown      11/08/08 13:07      
      Centered thread list      Craig Steiner      11/16/08 10:00      
         Yep - works now, thanks for this very nice, EOM      Marshall Brown      11/25/08 22:48      
   background color      Jan Waclawek      11/10/08 02:04      
      Confirm!      Matthias Arndt      11/10/08 02:58      
      Background color fixed      Craig Steiner      11/16/08 10:12      
         Seems to work now!      Matthias Arndt      11/16/08 13:58      
   an old nugget has come back      Erik Malund      11/11/08 09:00      
   New strange "new" markup      Per Westermark      11/11/08 12:27      
      Strange "New" behavior      Bill Johnson      11/11/08 14:11      
         Result of the "new" optimization      Per Westermark      11/11/08 14:48      
      Old thread      Craig Steiner      11/16/08 10:31      
   Please put "Mark all msgs read" link at top        Bill Johnson      11/11/08 14:20      
      Yes, please!      Andy Neil      11/13/08 08:08      
   I can't get in our web site...      Cyrille Ngassam      11/13/08 09:13      
      I have no explanation      Craig Steiner      11/16/08 10:04      
         I fixed the problem      Cyrille Ngassam      11/17/08 04:18      
   congrats      Navin Sajan      11/14/08 20:31      
   New login issue      Michael Karas      11/17/08 20:52      
      Issues with new format      Terry Lingle      11/18/08 09:10      
         Driver issue or web browser?      Per Westermark      11/18/08 09:39      
            could be      Terry Lingle      11/18/08 22:57      
         Mozilla problem I think      Craig Steiner      11/19/08 23:04      
            Netscape      Terry Lingle      11/20/08 19:48      
      Fixed      Craig Steiner      11/19/08 23:01      
         Some updates      Craig Steiner      11/22/08 18:23      
            Problem with new threads      Per Westermark      11/22/08 21:53      
            Thanks!      Kai Klaas      11/24/08 02:51      
   Old thread locking brocken!      Andy Neil      11/27/08 03:00      
      Resolved      Craig Steiner      12/02/08 20:12      
   two issues      Erik Malund      12/02/08 06:53      
      and two more      Erik Malund      12/02/08 06:55      
         Two problems or one?      Craig Steiner      12/02/08 20:17      
            same problem caused by different actions      Erik Malund      12/03/08 06:46      
      And new posts not flagged as new.      Per Westermark      12/02/08 13:22      
      Works here      Craig Steiner      12/02/08 20:15      
         found out something      Erik Malund      12/03/08 06:48      
            click needed      Maarten Brock      12/03/08 14:51      
               no need to do so ....      Erik Malund      12/03/08 15:29      
      details      Erik Malund      10/07/09 07:48      
   I like 8052.com      John Smith      12/06/08 04:56      
   Oldest Not Working      Michael Karas      12/07/08 07:14      
      Broken before?      Per Westermark      12/07/08 09:14      
   Broken or Removed Feature?      Michael Karas      01/05/09 16:13      
      I think just disabled for now...      Jon Ledbetter      01/06/09 07:46      
         Correct      Craig Steiner      02/01/09 14:09      
            Load tests      Craig Steiner      02/01/09 17:02      
   it SEEMS to me      Erik Malund      01/17/09 05:41      
   Delete or Anonymize?      Grant Beattie      01/27/09 16:43      
      Privacy?      Andy Neil      01/28/09 03:11      
         Yet different      Grant Beattie      01/28/09 08:37      
            Trust      Per Westermark      01/28/09 08:43      
               conversely      Andy Neil      01/29/09 10:32      
                  Deleting accounts      Craig Steiner      02/01/09 13:49      
                     absolutely      Erik Malund      02/01/09 17:53      
                     Sounds good to me.      Grant Beattie      02/02/09 14:53      
   Re: Changes      Ralph Sac      01/30/09 12:58      
   Where do my posts go?      Per Westermark      02/01/09 22:56      
      I see them      Craig Steiner      02/02/09 00:35      
         Is anyone else having problems posting?      Andy Neil      02/02/09 03:47      
            They are there now      Per Westermark      02/02/09 03:58      
               Delays still there      Per Westermark      02/02/09 04:01      
                  Now?      Craig Steiner      02/02/09 07:43      
               Only after a forced refresh      Andy Neil      02/02/09 05:46      
            I've had mixed experience ... I though it was censorship!      Richard Erlacher      11/17/09 12:36      
               Automatic login?      Per Westermark      11/17/09 17:14      
                  the problem has been unwanted automatic logout      Richard Erlacher      11/17/09 20:05      
                     Automatic cookie cleanup?      Per Westermark      11/17/09 21:10      
                        Nope ... I thought of that ...      Richard Erlacher      11/19/09 09:52      
                           Check Box      Jon Ledbetter      11/19/09 11:40      
                              Yes!      Richard Erlacher      11/19/09 17:29      
   a new one      Erik Malund      02/02/09 06:27      
   "my account"      Erik Malund      02/02/09 06:39      
      I just retired from having an actual job      Andy Neil      02/02/09 06:59      
         It was my decision, the timing was not what I wanted      Erik Malund      02/02/09 09:18      
            Let us know where you hang your consulting hat      Grant Beattie      02/02/09 14:54      
               the changes did (eventually) take      Erik Malund      02/03/09 06:26      
   Can't contribute to FAQ      Andy Neil      02/04/09 00:57      
   "bible" link(s)      Andy Neil      02/14/09 03:29      
   Can't delete data from user page ...      Richard Erlacher      02/18/09 19:00      
   To webmaster: Why my postings appear with capital letters ?      KONSTANTINOS L. ANGELIS      02/25/09 09:11      
      You used capital characters when registering?      Per Westermark      02/25/09 16:37      
         capitalization much the same      KONSTANTINOS L. ANGELIS      02/26/09 02:50      
            How did you register?      Per Westermark      02/26/09 03:33      
   trying to add to a FAQ      Erik Malund      03/05/09 13:23      
      See also:      Andy Neil      03/19/09 10:49      
   I just realized a (nominal) omission      Erik Malund      06/11/09 11:04      
   once upon a time ...      Erik Malund      07/02/09 08:10      
      Workaround      Andy Neil      07/02/09 09:36      
         Don't lock until OP returns      Per Westermark      08/20/09 22:09      
   a hint      Erik Malund      08/26/09 06:15      
   suggestion      Siddharth Dad      08/27/09 07:47      
   Meta-wackiness      Grant Beattie      09/01/09 10:01      
      Agreed!      Andy Neil      09/01/09 10:19      
         Bad copy/paste?      Per Westermark      09/01/09 10:48      
   "Off-Topic" Scores      Andy Neil      11/23/09 01:44      
      Website      Kamran Rasul      12/01/09 22:27      
         RE: Auto-email to OP      Andy Neil      01/06/10 04:15      
   ASM-51      Joop Van Veen      12/22/09 09:21      
      do not hijack      Erik Malund      12/22/09 09:25      
   Duplicate Member Names Showing      Michael Karas      03/06/10 04:02      
      Yes, it looks like, but actually...      Kai Klaas      03/07/10 18:39      
   is autoscroll disabled?      Andrew Murton      03/16/10 09:45      
      Works for me      Per Westermark      03/16/10 10:05      
         definitely no autoscroll here      Andrew Murton      03/17/10 12:15      
            autoscrolling now works      Andrew Murton      02/15/12 12:47      
   not a problem for me, information      Erik Malund      03/30/10 08:00      
      "Known" bug?      Andy Neil      03/30/10 08:11      
         Why is not used a popular forum like vBulletin or phpbb?      Sandu Buraga      04/24/10 22:08      
            History?      Andy Neil      04/25/10 00:19      
               Good old days :)      Sandu Buraga      04/25/10 00:43      
                  Is there really a strong enough reason to migrate?      Per Westermark      04/25/10 04:31      
                  I don't think so      Andy Neil      04/26/10 00:28      
                     Files      Per Westermark      04/26/10 01:34      
                     no      Erik Malund      04/26/10 07:22      
                  On switching to phpBB      Andy Neil      04/26/10 01:33      
                     Out of Date Discussion...      Michael Karas      04/26/10 05:58      
                        I think that was my point?      Andy Neil      04/26/10 06:20      
                        This thread makes the point      Erik Malund      04/26/10 07:25      
                           Quite possibly so      Andy Neil      04/26/10 07:47      
                  an example of migrating to a newer forum      Erik Malund      05/01/10 06:50      
            and lose all the good stuff ?      Erik Malund      04/25/10 05:57      
   Suggestion      Kiran V. Sutar      05/18/10 08:50      
      will never work      Erik Malund      05/18/10 10:48      
      Nice idea, but....      Andy Neil      05/18/10 11:32      
         Much work - little (or negative) gain      Per Westermark      05/19/10 04:06      
   one minor issue      Erik Malund      05/24/10 13:31      
   Forward and Backward forum thread reply navigation?      David Good      07/27/10 10:05      
   Why would I get this message?      Richard Erlacher      10/02/10 18:00      
   a non-problematic oddity      Erik Malund      03/11/11 09:13      
      OP Edited      Andy Neil      03/11/11 09:28      
   not od any importance, but ....      Erik Malund      05/02/11 07:06      
   Craig      PATRICK A AVONG      07/13/11 12:40      
      American conservatism in page headers      Per Westermark      01/02/12 02:25      
         Yes - it does seem rather inappropriate      Andy Neil      01/02/12 02:31      

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