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Per Westermark
01/12/10 17:45
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#172393 - Still often not possible to help...
Responding to: Erik Malund's previous message
...without having the large picture described, i.e. without the OP supplying a lot of (possibly irrelevant) descriptions about what the product is expected to be used for, and why it needs a specific feature.

I have on a number of occasion been helping people fighting through all the hassles of getting a concept to work. And suddenly, days or weeks after the first post, the OP adds a tiny little piece of extra information, and suddenly it has been apparent (to most people but the OP) that he/she is fighting with a problem that shouldn't have been solved in the first place.

Think about how hard it is to try to tell someone, with just words - no illustration - how to tie the shoelaces. And then, the OP suddenly mentions that his shoes have zipppers. Sometimes it's a tiny little detail. But sometimes it takes a huge amount of information about a problem just to let the helpers see the important picture and be able to suggest a good solution. And a good solution may actually solve a completely different problem.

You can fight trying to convert a frequency to a voltage and then use an ADC (with proper voltage reference) to measure the signal value to allow the original frequency to be computed. Or you can measure the frequency by just measuring the time for n periods of the input signal. With too little information, a lot of time can be spent trying to help with getting a good voltage reference without knowing that the real problem is getting the f to V converter to be linear. And no one will know that it may be possible to throw out both f to V converter and ADC from the equation.

No flowchart will ever be able to catch all possible questions to ask to get a complete decision tree. And with a too complex flowchart, most people will get confused and ignore the flowchart. If they even did look for it in the first place.

List of 44 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Connecting two 8051s      Poonam Kothawade      01/08/10 01:31      
   ther are lots of interfaces      Neil Kurzman      01/08/10 01:58      
      "RS232" (sic?)      Andy Neil      01/08/10 02:25      
         That is why i said type      Neil Kurzman      01/08/10 18:08      
      a slight difference of opinion      Erik Malund      01/08/10 07:43      
         I'm (probably) with Neil      Andy Neil      01/08/10 08:35      
            I do not, specifically if ...      Erik Malund      01/08/10 08:50      
               I thought you'd like that!      Andy Neil      01/08/10 09:33      
            I was looking from a code point of veiw      Neil Kurzman      01/08/10 18:14      
               if one was the best there would only be one.      Andy Neil      01/09/10 03:38      
               yes and no      Erik Malund      01/09/10 07:41      
      Lots of interfaces - Microwire; SPI; I2C      Andy Neil      01/08/10 08:31      
      parallel?      Maarten Brock      01/10/10 04:01      
   You may use whatever you like!      Andy Neil      01/08/10 02:18      
   I2C is serial communication.      Richard Erlacher      01/08/10 09:44      
      Already noted      Andy Neil      01/08/10 10:50      
         Sorry ... didn't mean to steal your thunder ...      Richard Erlacher      01/08/10 12:49      
   Is this (question) a Joke ...???      Kiran V. Sutar      01/09/10 12:25      
      Very tired of the "depends" response      Justin Fontes      01/10/10 00:41      
         Agreed...but this happens always...      Kiran V. Sutar      01/10/10 01:21      
         I think you missed the point!        Andy Neil      01/10/10 02:41      
            Re: 'Depends'..      Gopal Amlekar      01/10/10 06:53      
               it's typical ...      Richard Erlacher      01/10/10 08:18      
               All too common!      Andy Neil      01/10/10 08:52      
            FAQ isn't easy - flowchart not adequate      Per Westermark      01/10/10 07:12      
               Exactly!      Andy Neil      01/10/10 08:50      
            You wouldn't do it in everyday life - so why do it here?!      Andy Neil      01/10/10 09:00      
         Concrete enough?        Kai Klaas      01/10/10 13:31      
            Wow!      Andy Neil      01/10/10 16:28      
               Yes, for a while...      Kai Klaas      01/11/10 08:42      
         Well.. is this pretty good?        Justin Fontes      01/11/10 21:15      
            Still missing the point?      Andy Neil      01/12/10 03:41      
               Youre missing my point      Justin Fontes      01/12/10 10:48      
                  Exactly!!      Kai Klaas      01/12/10 11:12      
                  I see - but disagree      Andy Neil      01/12/10 11:21      
                  not 'demanding' but 'asking' is encouraged      Erik Malund      01/12/10 11:35      
                     Still often not possible to help...        Per Westermark      01/12/10 17:45      
                  I agree Justin..but...      Kiran V. Sutar      01/13/10 04:09      
                     Lots of usage details possible without giving product away      Per Westermark      01/13/10 08:29      
                     My answer was to be quiet!      Kai Klaas      01/13/10 08:35      
                  I will admit....      Justin Fontes      01/13/10 11:38      
                     That's why folks should search before posting!      Richard Erlacher      01/13/10 12:21      
   Please provide more details...      Anurag Mishra      03/22/10 07:06      
      Don't you think it's a bit late for that?!      Andy Neil      03/22/10 07:16      

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