| Richard Erlacher 01/26/10 18:49 Read: 139 times Denver, Co USA |
#172746 - Fact is ... Responding to: Erik Malund's previous message |
Erik Malund said:
because these ATMEL's built-in Pierce oscillators don't work very well at such high frequencies.
... I should have remembered that some (most?) Atmel chips are badly designed (which is part of my reason for not using Arghmel - their reply to a certain post is the main one) Erik The ATMEL pirece oscillators work as well as anyone's, but those don't work well at the 3rd harmonic. Since the O/P doesn't even know the difference between a crystal and a crystal oscillator, it's safe, IMHO, to believe that he's not going into production. Hence, using an oscillator is no sin, since they generally work, while MCU's Pierce oscillators sometimes do and sometimes don't. The O/P wants something that oscillates at somewhere near 33 MHz, the point being to make it run faster than at the 11 MHz rate at which he's proven it does. Manufacturer considerations aside, and you know I have no love lost on ATMEL, if the MCU is capable of operating at 33 MHz, and you want it to run at 33 MHz, then the setup for 11 MHz will produce exatly 3x the result, speed-wise, when using 33 MHz, which, as I pointed out, he can probably find on an old PC motherboard that's lying about somewhere, as with the 11 MHz that has satisfied him that it does work as expected. ... and for your benefit, Kai, in case you read this ... it's a food fight not a foot fight, that Erik frequently wants to start ... You know ... like the 3-year-old tossing his vegetables at his syblings. RE |
| Topic | Author | Date |
| execution speed and crystal frequency | Hans Marée | 01/25/10 10:29 |
| my guess is ... | Erik Malund | 01/25/10 11:26 |
| overtone | Stefan KAnev | 01/25/10 11:27 |
| As others already mentioned... | Kai Klaas | 01/25/10 13:16 |
| Indeed overtone | Hans Marée | 01/26/10 13:48 |
| Just try the crystal with 15pF + 15pF caps. | David Prentice | 01/26/10 14:26 |
| Try it with a crystal oscillator, rather than a crystal | Richard Erlacher | 01/25/10 16:42 |
| baloney | Erik Malund | 01/25/10 16:51 |
| Baloney #2 | Andy Neil | 01/25/10 18:02 |
| Where is your head wedged, Erik? | Richard Erlacher | 01/25/10 18:38 |
| just correcting invalid info | Erik Malund | 01/25/10 19:00 |
| SO ... What, exactly, is incorrect? | Richard Erlacher | 01/25/10 23:35 |
| already stated | Erik Malund | 01/26/10 07:33 |
| You are showing us how smart you are again, Erik! | Richard Erlacher | 01/26/10 09:28 |
| not my intention, but thanks for the compliment | Erik Malund | 01/26/10 09:46 |
| Richard is right... | Kai Klaas | 01/26/10 10:12 |
| I do not use these and .... | Erik Malund | 01/26/10 10:19 |
| Fact is ... | Richard Erlacher | 01/26/10 18:49 |
| as Kai stated | Erik Malund | 01/26/10 19:19 |
| so ... Erik ... what's your point? | Richard Erlacher | 01/26/10 21:25 |
| I did | Erik Malund | 01/27/10 05:32 |
| Once again, Erik, you've missed the point | Richard Erlacher | 01/27/10 09:58 |
| YOU would sell a suicide candidate a rope | Erik Malund | 01/27/10 11:15 |
come on... | Stefan KAnev | 01/27/10 12:08 |
| come on... | Stefan KAnev | 01/27/10 12:07 |
| Specifying Quartz Crystals | Enrique Viseras-Marin | 01/26/10 06:35 |



