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Richard Erlacher
01/26/10 18:49
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Denver, Co
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#172746 - Fact is ...
Responding to: Erik Malund's previous message
Erik Malund said:
because these ATMEL's built-in Pierce oscillators don't work very well at such high frequencies.

... I should have remembered that some (most?) Atmel chips are badly designed (which is part of my reason for not using Arghmel - their reply to a certain post is the main one)

Erik

The ATMEL pirece oscillators work as well as anyone's, but those don't work well at the 3rd harmonic.

Since the O/P doesn't even know the difference between a crystal and a crystal oscillator, it's safe, IMHO, to believe that he's not going into production. Hence, using an oscillator is no sin, since they generally work, while MCU's Pierce oscillators sometimes do and sometimes don't.

The O/P wants something that oscillates at somewhere near 33 MHz, the point being to make it run faster than at the 11 MHz rate at which he's proven it does.

Manufacturer considerations aside, and you know I have no love lost on ATMEL, if the MCU is capable of operating at 33 MHz, and you want it to run at 33 MHz, then the setup for 11 MHz will produce exatly 3x the result, speed-wise, when using 33 MHz, which, as I pointed out, he can probably find on an old PC motherboard that's lying about somewhere, as with the 11 MHz that has satisfied him that it does work as expected.

... and for your benefit, Kai, in case you read this ... it's a food fight not a foot fight, that Erik frequently wants to start ... You know ... like the 3-year-old tossing his vegetables at his syblings.

RE



List of 26 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
execution speed and crystal frequency      Hans Marée      01/25/10 10:29      
   my guess is ...      Erik Malund      01/25/10 11:26      
   overtone      Stefan KAnev      01/25/10 11:27      
   As others already mentioned...      Kai Klaas      01/25/10 13:16      
      Indeed overtone      Hans Marée      01/26/10 13:48      
         Just try the crystal with 15pF + 15pF caps.      David Prentice      01/26/10 14:26      
   Try it with a crystal oscillator, rather than a crystal      Richard Erlacher      01/25/10 16:42      
      baloney      Erik Malund      01/25/10 16:51      
         Baloney #2      Andy Neil      01/25/10 18:02      
         Where is your head wedged, Erik?      Richard Erlacher      01/25/10 18:38      
            just correcting invalid info      Erik Malund      01/25/10 19:00      
               SO ... What, exactly, is incorrect?      Richard Erlacher      01/25/10 23:35      
                  already stated      Erik Malund      01/26/10 07:33      
                     You are showing us how smart you are again, Erik!      Richard Erlacher      01/26/10 09:28      
                        not my intention, but thanks for the compliment      Erik Malund      01/26/10 09:46      
         Richard is right...      Kai Klaas      01/26/10 10:12      
            I do not use these and ....      Erik Malund      01/26/10 10:19      
               Fact is ...      Richard Erlacher      01/26/10 18:49      
                  as Kai stated      Erik Malund      01/26/10 19:19      
                     so ... Erik ... what's your point?      Richard Erlacher      01/26/10 21:25      
                        I did      Erik Malund      01/27/10 05:32      
                           Once again, Erik, you've missed the point      Richard Erlacher      01/27/10 09:58      
                              YOU would sell a suicide candidate a rope      Erik Malund      01/27/10 11:15      
                                 come on...      Stefan KAnev      01/27/10 12:08      
                     come on...      Stefan KAnev      01/27/10 12:07      
   Specifying Quartz Crystals      Enrique Viseras-Marin      01/26/10 06:35      

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