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Richard Erlacher
02/08/10 16:55
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Denver, Co
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#172984 - It isn't as simple as it looks.
Responding to: Mahmood Elnasser's previous message
If you examine the schematics of those regulators, you'll see that they buffer an internal reference voltage with a darlington. That darlington can source current, but there's really nothing in there that can sink a significant current. It's different from a pair of stacked batteries, in the respect that the batteries can sink current, but the regulators can't. Not even a positive and a negative regulator will work adequately, since they'll not always agree on what they're doing, which can produce sometimes unpredictable and always undesirable results.

Your input voltage is from a battery, and not from a rectified and filtered AC input. As a result, you really don't need the regulator features that mitigate the input ripple and other input-induced effects. In theory, your input supply is essentially "dead quiet." A power op-amp, with sufficient (meaning considerably more than your output requirements) output power, can produce a pseudo-GND that will support a moderately low-current system consisting of two zener diodes, or two transistor-buffered zeners. You could even use an op-amp to buffer each of the two zeners, or even use two op-amps to generate that bipolar output with a single zener reference, one as an inverting amp, and one as a buffer.

I'd suggest you look at datasheets for very old voltage regulators, e.g. LM305 and uA723, not to copy them, but merely to understand the techniques involved.

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List of 30 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
voltage regulator design      Mahmood Elnasser      02/07/10 12:54      
   Implement an "Inverting Buck-Boost"...      Kai Klaas      02/07/10 13:34      
      ultra low noise      Mahmood Elnasser      02/07/10 14:20      
         You're right ...      Richard Erlacher      02/07/10 15:35      
   reghardless of the urban legends and ...      Erik Malund      02/07/10 16:19      
   You need a rail splitter      Oliver Sedlacek      02/08/10 07:19      
      no, he does not      Erik Malund      02/08/10 07:40      
         When the Engine starts      Andy Neil      02/08/10 08:06      
            Engine?      Rob Klein      02/08/10 08:10      
               Ummm...      Andy Neil      02/08/10 09:04      
         That's not a given ...      Richard Erlacher      02/08/10 09:39      
         I stand by what I said      Oliver Sedlacek      02/08/10 11:38      
            Which one?      Richard Erlacher      02/08/10 13:10      
               Rail splitter      Mahmood Elnasser      02/08/10 15:29      
                  It isn't as simple as it looks.      Richard Erlacher      02/08/10 16:55      
                     it is ...      Erik Malund      02/08/10 17:18      
                        Did you even read the original spec's?      Richard Erlacher      02/09/10 00:04      
                           reverse engineering      Mahmood Elnasser      02/09/10 02:24      
                  Let me try ..      AP Charles      02/09/10 02:53      
                     Reply      Mahmood Elnasser      02/09/10 12:02      
                        Reply      AP Charles      02/09/10 23:25      
                  Like this      Oliver Sedlacek      02/09/10 06:41      
                     This should work well      Richard Erlacher      02/09/10 09:07      
                     The problem with the TLE2426 is...      Kai Klaas      02/09/10 14:30      
                        quite true, that's why the op-amp is better      Richard Erlacher      02/10/10 00:36      
                           Link....      AP Charles      02/10/10 00:37      
                              probably still too weak ...      Richard Erlacher      02/10/10 23:38      
                                 ...and instable...      Kai Klaas      02/11/10 19:13      
                        True, opamp alternative      Oliver Sedlacek      02/10/10 06:04      
                           There are several      Rob Klein      02/10/10 11:57      

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