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Richard Erlacher
02/09/10 00:04
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Denver, Co
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#172988 - Did you even read the original spec's?
Responding to: Erik Malund's previous message
Erik Malund said:
an isolated switcher for -5
a (non)isolated switcher for +5
a LDO for +3V3

and you will have good regulation for everything as the battery fluctuates

Linear Technology has some really neat modules, the family is growing http://www.linear.com/pc/viewCa...1042,C1424 I do not know if they have negatives, but Power trends (TI) does and so do other reputable manufacturers.

Since you are concerned with noise make sure you stick with reputable manufacturers, I have seen some gadawful crap when somebody was overly fiscally conscious.

Erik

PS I am automatically, because of my experience, thinking transport when I see 12/24V battery -= Mahmood, please state if it is


It would, indeed be helpful if we had a more complete description of the battery circuit. From what the O/P has provided, I guess we're allowed to assume a large-capacity (e.g. 1^560 AH) ideal 12.0000000... volt battery that is going to be replaced and charged separately when needed. Since the total current to be drawn from the battery is to be 330 mA, that won't be necessary often. I think those modules suggested in Erik's post may be just a bit large, however. Further, if they're to be applied in accordance with Erik's suggestion, i.e. a battery the voltage of which rises as high as 14.4 volts and is allowed to drop as low as 6 volts, then a SEPIC switcher is not required, and these modules do not, I believe, fit that model. However, the majority of them won't work from 12 volts.

They cost and weigh quite a bit more than the somewhat under $2 that a simple circuit capable of adequate power and substantially lower noise would cost, particularly since there would have to be two of them.

Hopefully about 100 mA on each of the 5-volt supplies would do the job, as that can easily be managed with a 1-watt zener with a generous factor of safety. The 3V3 could similarly be controlled with a zener capacity of 1/2 watt. If one (a) were able to tolerate the noise from a switcher, and (b) had to deal with the widely fluctuating input supply voltage as Erik suggests, then that battery could be pregeulated with a SEPIC regulator costing perhaps a dollar or two, to the somewhat more ideal voltage of 10 volts, in which case a rail-splitter would provide the necessary pseudo-ground and the complementary 5-volt outputs. Somehow, that makes more sense to me ... I could be wrong, of course.

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List of 30 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
voltage regulator design      Mahmood Elnasser      02/07/10 12:54      
   Implement an "Inverting Buck-Boost"...      Kai Klaas      02/07/10 13:34      
      ultra low noise      Mahmood Elnasser      02/07/10 14:20      
         You're right ...      Richard Erlacher      02/07/10 15:35      
   reghardless of the urban legends and ...      Erik Malund      02/07/10 16:19      
   You need a rail splitter      Oliver Sedlacek      02/08/10 07:19      
      no, he does not      Erik Malund      02/08/10 07:40      
         When the Engine starts      Andy Neil      02/08/10 08:06      
            Engine?      Rob Klein      02/08/10 08:10      
               Ummm...      Andy Neil      02/08/10 09:04      
         That's not a given ...      Richard Erlacher      02/08/10 09:39      
         I stand by what I said      Oliver Sedlacek      02/08/10 11:38      
            Which one?      Richard Erlacher      02/08/10 13:10      
               Rail splitter      Mahmood Elnasser      02/08/10 15:29      
                  It isn't as simple as it looks.      Richard Erlacher      02/08/10 16:55      
                     it is ...      Erik Malund      02/08/10 17:18      
                        Did you even read the original spec's?      Richard Erlacher      02/09/10 00:04      
                           reverse engineering      Mahmood Elnasser      02/09/10 02:24      
                  Let me try ..      AP Charles      02/09/10 02:53      
                     Reply      Mahmood Elnasser      02/09/10 12:02      
                        Reply      AP Charles      02/09/10 23:25      
                  Like this      Oliver Sedlacek      02/09/10 06:41      
                     This should work well      Richard Erlacher      02/09/10 09:07      
                     The problem with the TLE2426 is...      Kai Klaas      02/09/10 14:30      
                        quite true, that's why the op-amp is better      Richard Erlacher      02/10/10 00:36      
                           Link....      AP Charles      02/10/10 00:37      
                              probably still too weak ...      Richard Erlacher      02/10/10 23:38      
                                 ...and instable...      Kai Klaas      02/11/10 19:13      
                        True, opamp alternative      Oliver Sedlacek      02/10/10 06:04      
                           There are several      Rob Klein      02/10/10 11:57      

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