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Andy Neil
05/14/10 00:48
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#175873 - Not exactly fair
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Douglas Brummund said:
I should have guessed the big semiconductor companies wouldn't let us understand their products

Any semiconductor company (big or otherwise) only makes money by selling chips - so it is fundamentally in their interest that potential customers can understand them in order to be able to use them!

But bitter experience has taught them that parallel programming is best left to the experts - a poorly designed high-voltage programmer can easily destroy the chip.

how else could they make $100+ for all their development kits, IDEs and programmers...

They don't make $100 on a dev kit! In fact, most dev kits are actually subsidised
(try getting a design house to quote you for designing & making something equivalent to a dev kit...)

Free IDEs are available, and the paid-for ones are 3rd-party - so the semiconductor manufacturer is not making anything on that (in fact, again, some of them subsidise "special editions" of a commercial IDE).

... so we can use their $2 chips.

As the chips are only $2 (or whatever) you can imagine that they only make money by selling them in huge volumes - so they can't afford the support calls from people who've damaged chips by using dodgy, homebrew programmers...

List of 19 messages in thread
programing on chip flash?      Douglas Brummund      05/13/10 13:44      
   of course, you are,      Erik Malund      05/13/10 14:33      
   parallel programming      Jan Waclawek      05/13/10 15:36      
   thanks everyone      Douglas Brummund      05/13/10 19:18      
      Not exactly fair      Andy Neil      05/14/10 00:48      
      too deep      Stefan KAnev      05/14/10 01:48      
         Internal voltage doublers in some chips for IAP support      Per Westermark      05/14/10 03:14      
            hm      Stefan KAnev      05/14/10 03:58      
               actually ...      Erik Malund      05/14/10 04:32      
               why to do this? I cant understand :-(      Andy Neil      05/14/10 04:37      
                  the Manzi book      Erik Malund      05/14/10 05:17      
                     You mean, "Mazidi"      Andy Neil      05/14/10 06:17      
                        agreed, and ...      Erik Malund      05/14/10 06:26      
            ISP before IAP?      Andy Neil      05/14/10 04:41      
               A question of driving force      Per Westermark      05/14/10 04:54      
      baloney      Erik Malund      05/14/10 04:35      
   programming on chip flash?      Douglas Brummund      05/17/10 20:28      
      If only it were that simple...      Andy Neil      05/18/10 00:13      
      did you read my remark above...      Jan Waclawek      05/18/10 00:47      

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