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Per Westermark
07/04/11 14:38
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#182802 - SPI is excellent for driving long shift registers
Responding to: Richard Erlacher's previous message
What SPI "protocol"?

I just noted that a processor with hardware SPI can drive a long chain of shift registers really quick with very little CPU load. SPI may have four signals, but it's enough to use the MOSI data line and the clock line. Potentially a slave-select line. Excellent for clocking a shift register chain.

The push-pull design can work well when having bi-stable relays, or when only needing to drive one relay at a time.

The OP have probably thought that if 8x8 LED can be driven in a matrix, then it must be equally feasible to drive 64 relays the same way. But we can't drive the relays 8 times "harder" to make then stuck in the driven state for long enough time until we return to them again. Or in theory we can. With fast multiplexing we can send enough energy during the pulse that the relay will be forcibly driven. But it wouldn't be fun because of the inductive load. And we would introduce a mechanical vibration in the relay resulting in noise and wear.

But it's my guess that this is a very dead thread.

List of 49 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
problem rgarding uln and udn      Santosh Kumar Jena      05/18/11 12:35      
   They are different in every sense!      Kai Klaas      05/18/11 13:55      
      problem rgarding uln and udn      Santosh Kumar Jena      05/18/11 22:32      
         You forgot your links        Per Westermark      05/18/11 22:57      
         Basic electronics      Ashok Kumar      05/18/11 23:54      
            Clarification - more Basic Electronics      Andy Neil      05/19/11 00:21      
            probelems regarding udn 2892      Santosh Kumar Jena      06/30/11 22:59      
               Still Basic electronics      Andy Neil      07/01/11 00:02      
                  Links      Per Westermark      07/01/11 00:15      
                     That'll be why he's still struggling after all these weeks!      Andy Neil      07/01/11 02:57      
               open emitter        Kai Klaas      07/01/11 03:40      
                  Open collector      Andy Neil      07/01/11 04:54      
         RE: i am not getting you      Andy Neil      05/19/11 00:44      
   Did you really read datasheets?      Andy Neil      05/18/11 15:24      
      problem rgarding uln and udn      Santosh Kumar Jena      05/19/11 07:01      
         relay matrix???      Erik Malund      05/19/11 07:10      
         This doesn't make sense!      Andy Neil      05/19/11 07:12      
            8x8 relay matrix?      Per Westermark      05/19/11 07:49      
               relay matrix?      Andy Neil      05/19/11 09:35      
                  not quite      Erik Malund      05/19/11 10:07      
                  one interesting thing I learned      Erik Malund      07/06/11 13:09      
               Unless...      Kai Klaas      05/19/11 10:00      
                  problem rgarding uln and udn      Santosh Kumar Jena      05/19/11 10:58      
                     lightning fast relays      Erik Malund      05/19/11 11:01      
                        problems regarding uln and udn      Santosh Kumar Jena      05/19/11 11:35      
                           both      Erik Malund      05/19/11 12:12      
                           None of this makes sense!      Andy Neil      05/19/11 12:53      
                           It appears you need latching relays      Richard Erlacher      05/20/11 06:49      
                              Latching relay is still slow      Per Westermark      05/20/11 07:46      
                                 You're right, but the relay spec's should reveal that      Richard Erlacher      05/21/11 08:26      
                              well, if he does ...        Erik Malund      05/20/11 08:28      
                                 use toggle types ... they were around once ...      Richard Erlacher      05/21/11 08:38      
                                    SPI + latched shift registers are good choices      Per Westermark      05/21/11 09:38      
                                       The protocol is good ... but not necesary here      Richard Erlacher      07/04/11 10:21      
                                          SPI is excellent for driving long shift registers      Per Westermark      07/04/11 14:38      
                                             tell us, Per, what data types does SPI support?      Richard Erlacher      07/04/11 20:39      
                                                Making Mountain Out Of Mole Hill        Michael Karas      07/05/11 00:40      
                                                   protocol and/or command structure      Andy Neil      07/05/11 00:51      
                                                No, SPI does *not* have both commands and data!      Andy Neil      07/05/11 00:43      
                                                   Where you sit determines what you see      Richard Erlacher      07/05/11 22:34      
                                                      Totally missing the point      Andy Neil      07/06/11 00:12      
                                                         The major advantage        Erik Malund      07/06/11 13:03      
                                                      Where Richard Sits......      Michael Karas      07/06/11 00:31      
                                                         From where I sit...        Andy Neil      07/06/11 00:51      
                                                      Always important to follow up the progress of technology        Per Westermark      07/06/11 01:35      
                     Language barrier?        Kai Klaas      05/19/11 17:27      
                        Further question      Andy Neil      05/19/11 23:51      
                     Sorry, double posting...      Kai Klaas      05/19/11 17:28      
   Cross-Post?      Andy Neil      06/06/11 00:29      

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