| Richard Erlacher 11/16/11 11:32 Read: 162 times Denver, Co USA |
#184761 - I'm not so sure ... maybe we'll just have to disagree Responding to: Per Westermark's previous message |
Again, focusing on what he originally said he wanted to do ... namely to make his P8052 work, obviously with external memory, since internal memory is of no use ... I think you may be "barking up the wrong tree."
First of all, if he correctly attaches an oscillator, as this particular MCU doesn't have an RC oscillator, or a crystal and a couple of cap's in order to get it to "run." Now, with nEA tied high, the MCU will attempt to execute the code in its program store, though that's unknown to us. It will, however, allow the regular occurrence of ALE to be monitored, along with the operation of the oscillator. If, OTOH, he attaches an R-pack or an 8-bit buffer, e.g. '74xx245, to P0, with nPSEN enabling it as input as well as buffering nPSEN and thereby driving all the P0 inputs down, and with nEA tied low, the MCU will attempt to execute what it reads from external memory, which is NOP's. That will enable him to verify that the address buses and data bus are functioning properly. I think that's quite a bit, considering that he's then not had to program anything. I realize that this is a fine point, but he already knows how to program a PC, but has no experience with MCU's. This will give him experience with MCU's that a larger portion of the newbies we encounter on this forum haven't yet had. Don't you think that's worth a look? After doing this, perhaps a couple of hours' work, he'll have had experience that many of the students we see here will NEVER have, because they don't have access to a meters, 'scope, etc. RE |
| Topic | Author | Date |
| How to write programs to internal memory with RS232??? | Jacob Drake | 11/11/11 00:56 |
| What processor | Per Westermark | 11/11/11 01:05 |
| And the winner is... | Jacob Drake | 11/11/11 11:13 |
| fuggetabutit | Erik Malund | 11/11/11 11:42 |
| Hmmmmmm | Jacob Drake | 11/11/11 11:53 |
| sure there is | Erik Malund | 11/11/11 12:15 |
| Costly failure | Per Westermark | 11/11/11 12:20 |
| Well, the UV thing confuses me... | Jacob Drake | 11/11/11 12:26 |
| well, then .... | Erik Malund | 11/11/11 12:56 |
| OTP or mask-programmed | Per Westermark | 11/11/11 13:00 |
| Isn't that a clue? | Richard Erlacher | 11/11/11 14:09 |
| Wrong! It won't work with THIS part! | Richard Erlacher | 11/11/11 14:08 |
| 8032 | Per Westermark | 11/11/11 14:39 |
| Actually ... | Richard Erlacher | 11/11/11 23:50 |
| What situation would that be? | Per Westermark | 11/12/11 05:25 |
| I think you're confusing two different parts. | Richard Erlacher | 11/13/11 01:09 |
| There's the thing! | Andy Neil | 11/12/11 05:37 |
| It all depends on what you mean by experienced. | Jacob Drake | 11/12/11 12:54 |
| RE: It all depends on what you mean by, "experienced" | Andy Neil | 11/12/11 13:03 |
| "Level" is such a relative term | Jacob Drake | 11/12/11 17:35 |
| That's the reason | Richard Erlacher | 11/13/11 01:15 |
| 8032? | Jacob Drake | 11/12/11 00:47 |
| Yes - but is it worth it? | Andy Neil | 11/12/11 04:30 |
| It's a long, circuitous path ... | Richard Erlacher | 11/13/11 01:24 |
| I have an external UV EPROM | Jacob Drake | 11/12/11 00:38 |
| If you don't know that, ... | Andy Neil | 11/12/11 04:35 |
| Unless you have specific interest in vintage electronics ... | Andy Neil | 11/11/11 13:13 |
| So...I've made a decision..sorta | Jacob Drake | 11/12/11 23:51 |
| One step at a time | Andy Neil | 11/13/11 00:21 |
| Any specific one though? | Jacob Drake | 11/13/11 00:28 |
| This one? | Andy Neil | 11/13/11 01:04 |
| Not this one! | Richard Erlacher | 11/11/11 13:55 |
| Hmmm, a goal? | Jacob Drake | 11/12/11 00:44 |
| Wrong road! | Andy Neil | 11/12/11 05:07 |
| Regarding knowledge of electronics. | Jacob Drake | 11/12/11 12:57 |
| RE: "fourth grade" | Andy Neil | 11/12/11 13:10 |
| RE:RE:Fourth grade | Jacob Drake | 11/12/11 17:36 |
| if the "self taught home-school class" refer to the archaric | Erik Malund | 11/12/11 08:17 |
| When throwing out bathwater, take care to retain baby... | Andy Neil | 11/12/11 10:16 |
| out of sheer nostalgia | Erik Malund | 11/12/11 16:44 |
| It might, in fact, be a good thing to go back farther | Richard Erlacher | 11/13/11 01:37 |
| Interesting | Jacob Drake | 11/14/11 00:15 |
| You need to know much more about two things ... | Richard Erlacher | 11/14/11 12:51 |
| About other processors | Jacob Drake | 11/12/11 13:01 |
| The prices were on the page! | Andy Neil | 11/12/11 13:07 |
| SiLabs Boards | Michael Karas | 11/12/11 13:42 |
| Integrated | Per Westermark | 11/12/11 14:57 |
| here | Erik Malund | 11/12/11 16:34 |
| Code flash not always able to replace EEPROM | Per Westermark | 11/12/11 16:56 |
| agreed | Erik Malund | 11/12/11 17:24 |
| Yes | Jacob Drake | 11/12/11 17:42 |
| Yes | Jacob Drake | 11/12/11 17:42 |
| Maybe a heretic idea... | Matthias Arndt | 11/13/11 04:44 |
| There's a problem with these ... | Richard Erlacher | 11/13/11 12:56 |
| Not for the intended purpose.... | Matthias Arndt | 11/14/11 00:49 |
| Single source | Per Westermark | 11/14/11 01:02 |
| Just another chance..... | Michael Karas | 11/14/11 04:46 |
| If you read his entire post ... | Richard Erlacher | 11/14/11 13:00 |
| I have six other microprocessors that i found yesterday | Jacob Drake | 11/14/11 13:12 |
| Well, this is not the PIC forum ... | Richard Erlacher | 11/14/11 13:37 |
| I was just saying... | Jacob Drake | 11/14/11 15:02 |
| 'found'stuff | Erik Malund | 11/15/11 06:31 |
| I have to agree, conditionally | Richard Erlacher | 11/15/11 10:08 |
| learning about microcontrollers | Andy Neil | 11/14/11 15:24 |
| Arduino is a very good choice if not going 8051 route | Per Westermark | 11/14/11 16:54 |
| Careful, now ... | Richard Erlacher | 11/15/11 10:38 |
| spend some $$$ on an already-assembled product | Andy Neil | 11/14/11 15:14 |
| in for a penny, in for a pound ... | Richard Erlacher | 11/15/11 10:57 |
| Still easier to learn to program before bringing up first hw | Per Westermark | 11/15/11 11:26 |
I'm not so sure ... maybe we'll just have to disagree | Richard Erlacher | 11/16/11 11:32 |
| If you're really serious about this ... | Richard Erlacher | 11/13/11 14:01 |
| tools and such | Jacob Drake | 11/14/11 09:58 |
| Well ... maybe your Dad can fill you in on some details | Richard Erlacher | 11/14/11 13:13 |
| re: 8052 | Andy Peters | 11/14/11 12:57 |
| Switched | Per Westermark | 11/14/11 13:18 |
| no offense, but that's incorrect. | Richard Erlacher | 11/14/11 13:24 |



