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|#185775 - Design the hardware first.|
Responding to: ???'s previous message
The traditional 8051 has a relatively long start-up time compared to other microcontroller families. So an LED or motor that turns on with the power and is not turned off until the software is running is an 'embarrassment'. All the same even a 10ms glitch is unwise on any controller, just not so noticeable.
The solution is simple. An external pull-up or pull-down resistor.
You have to ensure your default state when the controller is in RESET.
During RESET, the pins are all inputs on a PIC, 8051, ...
If you designed active-low, you use a pull-up. Active-high needs a pull-down.
Even though a PIC port defaults to 0, it remains an input until you set its DDR. With default active-low, the PIC writes 1 to the port before it sets the DDR for o/p. With default active-high, you write 0 to the port before you make it an o/p. The external 'pull' resistor ensures off until the software is running.
The traditional 8051 does not have a DDR. It is therefore wiser to use active-low. All the same an external pull-down can ensure 'off'. You then need a PNP transistor to provide source current.
If you have made a design mistake, change to a variant with push-pull output. Then you are in the same position as your PIC colleague.
|Power-On Port Status Problem||Adam Blue||01/30/12 08:42|
|Wrong idea||Per Westermark||01/30/12 08:48|
|you will not||Erik Malund||01/30/12 08:49|
|you are not the only one||Erik Malund||01/30/12 09:18|
|ATMEL be ashamed||Adam Blue||01/30/12 15:05|
|No, YOU should be ashamed...||Kai Klaas||01/30/12 16:15|
|Nonsense!||Andy Neil||01/30/12 16:46|
|PIC Does so||Neil Kurzman||01/30/12 23:08|
|Oh really??||Michael Karas||01/31/12 07:46|
|"Glitch" in the sense of kind of "setback in a plane"?||Kai Klaas||01/31/12 10:19|
|Try These Ideas||Michael Karas||01/30/12 17:21|
|"Glitch"||Adam Blue||02/01/12 13:12|
|what is not “ATMEL true”.||Erik Malund||02/01/12 13:37|
|I think you are making excuses||Erik Malund||02/01/12 13:41|
|Oh, boohoo!||Rob Klein||02/01/12 14:04|
|What a bunch of fatty sausage...||Michael Karas||02/01/12 14:59|
|"very easy problem"||Andy Neil||02/01/12 15:02|
|Power-On Glitch||Adam Blue||02/01/12 15:40|
|Nonsense - again||Andy Neil||02/01/12 16:28|
|Please explain what the "power-on glitch" is ...||Richard Erlacher||02/01/12 19:26|
|Into The Frying Pan||Michael Karas||02/01/12 20:52|
|Power-on problem...||Kai Klaas||02/02/12 05:55|
|You are still blaming the tools||Per Westermark||02/03/12 05:55|
|Design the hardware first.||David Prentice||02/02/12 07:21|
|do not Design the hardware first.||Erik Malund||02/02/12 07:30|
|Power-On Glitch||Adam Blue||02/02/12 15:07|
|that you had the worst possible reset circuit||Erik Malund||02/02/12 15:59|
|RC-reset...||Kai Klaas||02/02/12 17:20|
|Sorry, double post, don't know why...||Kai Klaas||02/02/12 17:21|
|No, you're not the only one||Richard Erlacher||02/02/12 21:12|
|Would I Hire?||Michael Karas||02/02/12 22:44|
|incidentially||Erik Malund||02/03/12 07:09|
|Power On satus Problem||Satish S Munot||02/29/12 10:16|
|echo, echo, echo||Erik Malund||02/29/12 10:30|