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Bartosz Wucke
09/01/04 04:52
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#76743 - RE: I\'m game!
Responding to: Oleg Sergeev's previous message
Oleg Sergeev wrote:
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>I understand that it is so far from 8052. But I think only about emulation of some parts. As I said, I wish MOD player based on 8052. And I will do it anyway when some free time come.


I think the approach of "emulating parts of Amiga" isn't the most optimal. Better check out MikMod and try porting it to '51...

>>Generating synth sounds might mean some trouble.

>No if we take fast MCU with PCA - its modules may be used as PWM for audio channels. Moreover, there are some derivatives which have DACs built-in (for example, from SiLabs).

I don't say it's impossible, it just takes a lot of CPU time, you may be short on that time for other channels/instruments.
Watch out for the DAC speed. Sometimes it needs quite some time to pick the value you've written to it.

>Are you sure that they are MODs? As I know, such technique is used to play MP3 with "Paula" chip of Amiga.

Yes, I'm sure, that was an obscure technique of splitting one sample into two and playing them both together - it was exploiting some specific properties of Paula, which will be probably hard to replicate. But even if you fail to replicate them, you'll lose quality of what, 3% of MODs released?

> This is my main problem. I have not enough information about sound effects. You see, I am not a musician and all these Arpeggio, Portamento, Tremolo, Slide, Vibrato etc confuce me...

I hope MikMod source should explain a bit... :)


List of 177 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Atari 400/800 implementation with 8052      Craig Steiner      08/30/04 10:34      
   RE: Atari 400/800 implementation with 8052      José Félix Díaz Ivorra      08/30/04 10:51      
      Sorry...      José Félix Díaz Ivorra      08/30/04 10:59      
   RE: Atari 400/800 implementation with 8052      Erik Malund      08/30/04 12:17      
   RE: Atari 400/800 implementation with 80      Jose Orlando T. Ribeiro      08/30/04 13:14      
   RE: Atari 400/800 implementation with 80      Bartosz Wucke      08/30/04 13:20      
   Microprocesor emulator?      José Félix Díaz Ivorra      08/30/04 15:24      
      RE: Microprocesor emulator?      Craig Steiner      08/30/04 17:28      
         RE: Microprocesor emulator?      Ijaz Ahmed      08/30/04 22:15      
         RE: Microprocesor emulator?      Bartosz Wucke      08/30/04 23:31      
            6502 emulation      Craig Steiner      08/31/04 09:16      
               RE: 6502 emulation      Bartosz Wucke      09/01/04 01:03      
                  RE: 6502 emulation      José A. Ruiz      09/18/04 22:47      
         RE: Microprocesor emulator?      José Félix Díaz Ivorra      08/31/04 00:29      
            RE: Microprocesor emulator?      Bartosz Wucke      08/31/04 01:41      
               RE: Microprocesor emulator?      Bartosz Wucke      08/31/04 01:49      
               RE: Microprocesor emulator?      Craig Steiner      08/31/04 09:04      
                  RE: Microprocesor emulator?      Erik Malund      08/31/04 09:37      
                  RE: Microprocesor emulator?      Phillip M Gallo      08/31/04 10:50      
                     RE: Microprocesor emulator?      Craig Steiner      08/31/04 11:13      
                        RE: Microprocesor emulator?      Bartosz Wucke      09/01/04 00:16      
      RE: Microprocesor emulator?      Andy Peters      08/30/04 22:12      
         RE: Microprocesor emulator?      Bartosz Wucke      08/31/04 01:53      
   RE: Atari 400/800 implementation with 8052      Jez Smith      08/31/04 02:55      
      RE: Atari 400/800 implementation with 80      Bartosz Wucke      08/31/04 03:03      
   RE: Atari 400/800 implementation with 8052      Jez Smith      08/31/04 08:07      
   Video output with 8052?      Craig Steiner      08/31/04 10:39      
      VGA?      Craig Steiner      08/31/04 10:51      
      RE: Video output with 8052?        Prahlad J. Purohit      08/31/04 11:41      
         RE: Video output with 8052?      J. Guy      08/31/04 12:07      
         RE: Video output with 8052?      Craig Steiner      08/31/04 12:19      
            RE: Video output with 8052?      Bartosz Wucke      08/31/04 13:23      
            RE: Video output with 8052?      Phillip M Gallo      08/31/04 17:37      
   RE: Atari 400/800 implementation with 8052      Jez Smith      08/31/04 13:31      
      RE: Atari 400/800 implementation with 8052      Jez Smith      08/31/04 14:00      
      RE: Atari 400/800 implementation with 80      Bartosz Wucke      08/31/04 14:12      
         Do we really need 6502 emulation?      Craig Steiner      08/31/04 14:26      
            RE: Do we really need 6502 emulation?      Bartosz Wucke      08/31/04 15:55      
               RE: Do we really need 6502 emulation?      Craig Steiner      08/31/04 16:06      
                  I'm game!      Keith E. Fleming      08/31/04 16:16      
                     RE: I'm game!      Bartosz Wucke      09/01/04 00:53      
                        RE: I'm game!      Oleg Sergeev      09/01/04 01:36      
                           RE: I'm game!      Bartosz Wucke      09/01/04 01:55      
                              RE: I\'m game!      Oleg Sergeev      09/01/04 03:49      
                                 RE: I\'m game!      Bartosz Wucke      09/01/04 04:52      
   8052-based video or off-chip solution      Craig Steiner      08/31/04 16:14      
      RE: 8052-based video or off-chip solutio      Steve M. Taylor      08/31/04 16:46      
      RE: 8052-based video or off-chip solution      George Pallis      08/31/04 17:14      
         RE: 8052-based video or off-chip solution      George Pallis      08/31/04 18:15      
         RE: 8052-based video or off-chip solution      George Pallis      08/31/04 18:34      
      My My...Where is the OLD spirit?      Michael Karas      08/31/04 21:25      
   RE: Atari 400/800 implementation with 8052      José Félix Díaz Ivorra      09/01/04 02:23      
      LCD?      José Félix Díaz Ivorra      09/01/04 02:31      
         RE: LCD?      Bartosz Wucke      09/01/04 03:13      
            RE: LCD motiv?      José Félix Díaz Ivorra      09/01/04 04:30      
   Revisiting video & emulation      Craig Steiner      09/01/04 08:38      
      RE: Revisiting video & emulation      Bartosz Wucke      09/01/04 08:54      
         RE: Revisiting video & emulation      Craig Steiner      09/01/04 09:04      
            RE: Revisiting video & emulation      Erik Malund      09/01/04 09:16      
            RE: Revisiting video & emulation      Prahlad J. Purohit      09/01/04 09:24      
               RE: Revisiting video & emulation      Bartosz Wucke      09/01/04 09:34      
                  RE: Revisiting video & emulation      Prahlad J. Purohit      09/01/04 09:55      
                  RE: Revisiting video & emulation      Prahlad J. Purohit      09/01/04 10:02      
      RE: Revisiting video & emulation      Phillip M Gallo      09/02/04 11:27      
         RE: Revisiting video & emulation      Craig Steiner      09/02/04 11:52      
            RE: Revisiting video & emulation      Phillip M Gallo      09/02/04 15:47      
               RE: Revisiting video & emulation      Bartosz Wucke      09/03/04 14:58      
                  RE: Revisiting video & emulation      Phillip M Gallo      09/03/04 16:20      
                     RE: Revisiting video & emulation      Bartosz Wucke      09/04/04 17:23      
                        RE: Revisiting video & emulation      Phillip M Gallo      09/04/04 17:52      
                           RE: Revisiting video & emulation        Phillip M Gallo      09/20/04 01:47      
                              Phillip implements 8052 video      Craig Steiner      09/20/04 08:12      
                                 RE: Phillip implements 8052 video      Phillip M Gallo      09/20/04 09:20      
                                    Phillip video user page      Craig Steiner      09/20/04 09:41      
                                       RE: Phillip video user page      Phillip M Gallo      09/20/04 20:03      
                                          Silabs as video chip      Craig Steiner      09/20/04 20:57      
                                             RE: Silabs as video chip      Phillip M Gallo      09/21/04 20:25      
                                       RE: Phillip video user page      Phillip M Gallo      09/26/04 14:15      
                                          RE: Phillip video user page      Craig Steiner      09/26/04 21:53      
                                             RE: Phillip video user page      Phillip M Gallo      09/27/04 01:10      
                              RE: Revisiting video & emulation      Steve M. Taylor      09/20/04 09:13      
   WHY?      José Félix Díaz Ivorra      09/01/04 09:34      
      RE: WHY?      Craig Steiner      09/01/04 09:52      
      None of the above      Keith E. Fleming      09/01/04 12:18      
   Programmable logic again      George Pallis      09/02/04 05:19      
   Defining the project & new ideas      Craig Steiner      09/03/04 11:29      
      RE: Defining the project & new ideas      Erik Malund      09/03/04 11:51      
      RE: Defining the project & new ideas      Bartosz Wucke      09/03/04 12:50      
         RE: Defining the project & new ideas      Craig Steiner      09/03/04 13:32      
            RE: Defining the project & new ideas      Bartosz Wucke      09/03/04 14:42      
               RE: Defining the project & new ideas      Craig Steiner      09/03/04 16:07      
      RE: Defining the project & new ideas      Phillip M Gallo      09/04/04 17:37      
         RE: Defining the project & new ideas      Craig Steiner      09/04/04 19:13      
            RE: Defining the project & new ideas      Phillip M Gallo      09/06/04 08:45      
               RE: Defining the project & new ideas      Craig Steiner      09/06/04 11:14      
                  RE: Defining the project & new ideas      Donald Catto      09/07/04 02:38      
                     RE: Efficiency      Craig Steiner      09/07/04 07:52      
                        RE: Efficiency      Donald Catto      09/07/04 09:20      
                           RE: Efficiency      Craig Steiner      09/07/04 12:48      
                              RE: Efficiency      Bartosz Wucke      09/09/04 09:41      
                                 RE: Purpose of OS/Relocatable code      Craig Steiner      09/09/04 10:28      
                                    RE: Purpose of OS/Relocatable code      Bartosz Wucke      09/09/04 11:50      
                                       RE: Purpose of OS/Relocatable code      Craig Steiner      09/09/04 12:14      
                                          RE: Purpose of OS/Relocatable code      Bartosz Wucke      09/10/04 02:21      
                     RE: Defining the project & new ideas      Phillip M Gallo      09/07/04 09:15      
                        RE: Defining the project & new ideas      Donald Catto      09/07/04 09:34      
                     RE: Defining the project & new ideas      Bartosz Wucke      09/09/04 09:21      
   Take a look      George Pallis      09/04/04 06:45      
   Starting specifications?      José Félix Díaz Ivorra      09/07/04 14:56      
      RE: Starting specifications?      Erik Malund      09/07/04 15:31      
         I2C vs. parallel bus      Craig Steiner      09/07/04 15:44      
      RE: Starting specifications?      Phillip M Gallo      09/07/04 17:46      
         RE: Serial vs. parallel internal bus      Craig Steiner      09/07/04 21:44      
            RE: Serial vs. parallel internal bus      Bartosz Wucke      09/09/04 01:04      
      Then parallel..      José Félix Díaz Ivorra      09/08/04 09:22      
   RE: Atari 400/800 implementation with 8052      Phillip M Gallo      09/08/04 10:21      
      Re: Architecture questions      Craig Steiner      09/08/04 11:12      
      RE: Atari 400/800 implementation with 80      Bartosz Wucke      09/09/04 01:19      
         RE: Atari 400/800 implementation with 80      Craig Steiner      09/09/04 08:18      
            RE: Atari 400/800 implementation with 80      Bartosz Wucke      09/09/04 09:12      
               RE: Atari 400/800 implementation with 80      Craig Steiner      09/09/04 10:37      
                  RE: Atari 400/800 implementation with 80      Bartosz Wucke      09/09/04 11:24      
   Proposal: Internal Data Bus      Craig Steiner      09/08/04 10:53      
      RE: Proposal: Internal Data Bus      Erik Malund      09/08/04 11:03      
         RE: Proposal: Internal Data Bus      José Félix Díaz Ivorra      09/08/04 17:12      
            RE: Command/Data line      Craig Steiner      09/08/04 17:46      
               RE: Command/Data line      Bartosz Wucke      09/09/04 01:50      
                  RE: Command/Data line      Erik Malund      09/09/04 06:20      
                     RE: just recalled another      Erik Malund      09/09/04 06:29      
                        RE: just recalled another      Bartosz Wucke      09/09/04 07:03      
                     RE: Alternative bus strategies      Craig Steiner      09/09/04 08:01      
         RE: Proposal: Internal Data Bus      Bartosz Wucke      09/09/04 01:53      
      RE: Proposal: Internal Data Bus      Phillip M Gallo      09/08/04 18:43      
         RE: Proposal: Internal Data Bus      Craig Steiner      09/08/04 20:01      
            RE: Proposal: Internal Data Bus      Phillip M Gallo      09/08/04 23:24      
               RE: Proposal: Internal Data Bus      Craig Steiner      09/09/04 08:08      
                  RE: Proposal: Internal Data Bus      Bartosz Wucke      09/09/04 08:59      
                     RAM quantity & Interrupts      Craig Steiner      09/09/04 10:43      
                        RE: RAM quantity & Interrupts      Bartosz Wucke      09/09/04 11:15      
      Where's the memory?      Bartosz Wucke      09/09/04 02:03      
         RE: Shared memory as the data bus?      Craig Steiner      09/09/04 08:14      
         RE: Where\'s the memory?      José Félix Díaz Ivorra      09/09/04 08:48      
            RE: Multiport/DMA limitations      Craig Steiner      09/09/04 08:55      
               RE: Multiport/DMA limitations      Bartosz Wucke      09/09/04 09:57      
                  DMA on the Atari      Craig Steiner      09/09/04 10:46      
                     RE: DMA on the Atari      Bartosz Wucke      09/09/04 11:10      
                        RE: DMA on the Atari      J. Guy      09/09/04 16:41      
                           RE: DMA on the Atari      José Félix Díaz Ivorra      09/09/04 16:44      
                           RE: DMA on the Atari      Bartosz Wucke      09/10/04 01:50      
               RE: Multiport/DMA limitations Yes But..      José Félix Díaz Ivorra      09/09/04 16:59      
   Future of this project      Craig Steiner      09/09/04 08:58      
      RE: Future of this project      Steve M. Taylor      09/09/04 10:11      
         Purpose of the project      Craig Steiner      09/09/04 10:59      
            RE: Purpose of the project      Bartosz Wucke      09/09/04 11:31      
         RE: Future of this project      Bartosz Wucke      09/09/04 11:06      
      RE: Future of this project      Bartosz Wucke      09/09/04 10:39      
      RE: Future of this project      José Félix Díaz Ivorra      09/09/04 17:03      
         RE: Future of this project      Phillip M Gallo      09/09/04 18:06      
      RE: Future of this project      Phillip M Gallo      09/09/04 17:29      
   RE: Atari 400/800 implementation with 80      Harley Shanko      09/09/04 12:01      
      RE: Atari games on CD      James Hinnant      09/09/04 14:27      
   RE: Multiprocessing/ebay/vintage_puters      James Hinnant      09/09/04 14:37      
   RE: Karas the Big Party Pooper        Michael Karas      09/09/04 22:06      
      That's the point      Craig Steiner      09/09/04 22:17      
      RE: Karas the Big Party Pooper      Phillip M Gallo      09/09/04 23:36      
         RE: Karas the Big Party Pooper      José Félix Díaz Ivorra      09/10/04 01:11      
            RE: Karas the Big Party Pooper      Phillip M Gallo      09/10/04 19:11      
               RE: in a grid      James Hinnant      09/10/04 20:01      
                  RE: in a grid      Bartosz Wucke      09/11/04 03:03      
                     RE: in a grid      Steve M. Taylor      09/11/04 14:33      
                        RE: in a grid      James Hinnant      09/12/04 17:40      
                           RE: in a grid      James Hinnant      09/12/04 18:01      
      RE: Karas the Big Party Pooper      Kai Klaas      09/11/04 11:01      
         RE: Karas the Big Party Pooper      Bartosz Wucke      09/11/04 13:40      
   RE: Atari 400/800 implementation with 8052      Vinod Kumar      09/12/04 12:50      
   About the multiprocessor scheme      George Pallis      09/14/04 05:03      
   Home built 8051 computer??      Jerson Fernandes      09/15/04 20:56      

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