Email: Password: Remember Me | Create Account (Free)

Back to Subject List

Old thread has been locked -- no new posts accepted in this thread
Jerson Fernandes
11/24/05 22:19
Read: 806 times

#104146 - Out of spec
Responding to: Ian Bell's previous message
Ian Bell said:
Jan Waclawek said:
Ian Bell said:
Have you informed the chip manufacturer?

Oh, Ian, do you really think they don't know?

Of course they know. I mentioned it because they are the one other party you can be sure is interested in stopping it. Any information you can give them will help keep your product secure and make the manufacturer gratefull to you.

Not quite so. In fact, if you read some data sheets, they implicitly agree to the existence of code breakers and have limited liability clauses.

See this excerpt from a datasheet of PIC16F914 (Not verbatim as I am not able to cut - paste from the PDF)
Microchip said:

- Microchip 'believes' that its family of products is one of the most secure in the market today when used in the 'intended manner and under normal conditions'
- There are dishonest and illegal methods used to breach the code protection feature. All of these methods, to our knowledge, require using the products outside the operating conditions specified in the datasheet. Most likely the person is involved in theft of intellectual property
- Neither Microchip nor any other manufacturer can guarantee the security of their code.Code protection does not mean that the product is unbreakable.


List of 29 messages in thread
code lock breakers      Erik Malund      11/21/05 06:39      
   I doubt      Jan Waclawek      11/21/05 07:00      
      I said so, and I mean it in the proper c      Erik Malund      11/21/05 07:32      
         this won't help      Jan Waclawek      11/21/05 09:53      
   Manufacturer      Ian Bell      11/21/05 07:57      
       would do that if breaking specific chip      Erik Malund      11/21/05 08:01      
      vulnerabilities      Jan Waclawek      11/21/05 09:48      
         I am sure they do know      Ian Bell      11/24/05 15:26      
            Out of spec      Jerson Fernandes      11/24/05 22:19      
            manufacturer      Jan Waclawek      11/25/05 00:39      
               Maybe...      Robert Revens      11/25/05 08:49      
                  Danger Will Robinson?      Ian Bell      11/27/05 08:36      
   There might be a way      Bert Van Den Berg      11/23/05 23:54      
      DMCA      Craig Steiner      11/24/05 00:02      
         Mean MCU hardware locks are broken ?      Anil Gupta      11/24/05 01:58      
            Look here      Robert Revens      11/24/05 02:05      
               But no body knows how it is done      Anil Gupta      11/24/05 02:36      
                  This link shows an example      Chris Kelly      11/24/05 05:59      
                  lockbreakers      Jan Waclawek      11/25/05 00:46      
         US Federal Anti-Hacking Laws      Bert Van Den Berg      11/24/05 07:35      
         USA Only      Ian Bell      11/27/05 08:38      
         Exactly      Steve M. Taylor      11/27/05 10:26      
            smart cards      Terry Lingle      11/27/05 12:46      
               DSS cracking      Steve M. Taylor      11/27/05 13:42      
                  TV decoder      Bert Van Den Berg      11/27/05 23:31      
                     Deported ?      Steve M. Taylor      11/28/05 09:24      
                        Nah, I like the Coast Guard      Bert Van Den Berg      11/28/05 10:49      
                           swings and roundabouts      Steve M. Taylor      11/28/05 11:58      
                  Black Friday ?      Terry Lingle      11/28/05 00:29      

Back to Subject List