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Sasha Jevtic
01/24/06 13:59
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Barrington, Il

#108225 - Reliability and manageability
Responding to: Kevin Timm's previous message
Kevin Timm said:
but we have a commercial environment running linux (SLES 9). There are > 20 machines, all running oracle/java/apache/visibroker (corba) and our own application utilizing those items.

These machines run 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year and have been doing so for 2+ years, WITHOUT interruption. It's a transactional messaging system that is utilized 24 hours a day (not just 9-5). We house these machines in a hosting facility and we promise 5 9's reliability. That's 5 minutes downtime per year. And we have no problem meeting that SLA.

So, if you want machines that work and work all them time without any trouble at all, linux is a fantastic idea.

Oh, one more thing: these machines replaced HP boxes (running HP-UX). Not because they were more reliable (that part was equal) but because we saw an order of magnitude performance improvement and hardware/software/maintenance costs 75% less than HP.

You are definitely on to something here. In an enterprise IT environment, reliability is extremely important. And it has to be achieved without breaking the bank. I don't think that either Windows or Linux is just "generally more suited" to today's IT landscape; each offers its own distinct pros and cons, and selecting the appropriate solution needs to be done on a case by case basis. In your case it was Linux. That's absolutely fine. It's also possible you might have chosen a modern version of Windows and been successful as well. But if you were using Windows 98, I bet you would have had some real issues living up to to your SLA.

Another important issue is manageability. When large numbers of machines are present, auotmation of administration can really cut labor costs, improve support, and generally enhance the end user experience. With the right planning, nowadays you can plug a new machine into the network and go home. By the time you return in the morning, it will have booted over the network to a Windows installer, installed Windows with the appropriate drivers, installed all software appropriate for the machine (based on departmental association, etc), fully patched itself, and will have received all the appropriate customizations (restrictions, etc.). Anyone boasting the excellence of Windows 9x, or even its adequacy, has probably never been charged with managing a large network. This kind of functionality just didn't exist in that era. Modern versions of Windows contain a lot of technologies that make this scenario possible.

Sure, people have been deploying disk images over the network for years, but that becomes a huge hassle when different images must be developed for different departments or the underlying hardware changes.

--Sasha Jevtic

List of 55 messages in thread
better software my bum!!!!      Jez Smith      01/22/06 15:15      
   Well, when i say windows 98      Jez Smith      01/22/06 15:20      
   Linux      Steve M. Taylor      01/22/06 15:40      
   Now there's an idea      Jez Smith      01/22/06 16:19      
      Not just look and feel      Steve M. Taylor      01/23/06 02:44      
   Windows 98 is a sad excuse for an OS      Sasha Jevtic      01/23/06 15:19      
      '98 is the last that will run true DOS.      Erik Malund      01/23/06 15:25      
         That old Chestnut      Andy Neil      01/23/06 16:19      
            We managed      Steve M. Taylor      01/23/06 16:37      
               Did, and still do      Joseph Hebert      01/24/06 08:56      
                  i have an old clunker running '98 sittin      Erik Malund      01/24/06 09:12      
                     Old Clunkers      Joseph Hebert      01/24/06 10:00      
                  not to start anything      Kevin Timm      01/24/06 10:02      
                     Not to finish anything either,      Joseph Hebert      01/24/06 11:58      
                        the missed issue      Erik Malund      01/24/06 12:09      
                        given      Kevin Timm      01/24/06 12:30      
                           When the missed issue had not bee      Erik Malund      01/24/06 12:55      
                              no, it was interjected      Kevin Timm      01/24/06 13:06      
                                 That may be, but who sent you Keil, Code      Erik Malund      01/24/06 13:11      
                                    really?      Kevin Timm      01/24/06 14:05      
                                       agreed, but what if "the tool" can not d      Erik Malund      01/25/06 08:05      
                                          Keil runs      Steve M. Taylor      01/25/06 11:08      
                                             oh, well, maybe bad example.      Erik Malund      01/25/06 11:25      
                                                Open software      Steve M. Taylor      01/25/06 11:35      
                                             uVision3 for ARM on Linux      Ian Bell      01/26/06 09:02      
                                                Nice      Steve M. Taylor      01/26/06 09:25      
                                                   Load Meter      Ian Bell      01/26/06 14:29      
                                                      WHAT      Erik Malund      01/26/06 14:46      
                                                         Not never      Steve M. Taylor      01/26/06 15:28      
                                                         Crashes      Ian Bell      01/27/06 04:13      
                                                      gkrellm      Andy Peters      01/26/06 17:12      
                     Reliability and manageability      Sasha Jevtic      01/24/06 13:59      
                        SECURITY is the issue.      Steve M. Taylor      01/24/06 14:34      
                           UNIX or Windows?      Sasha Jevtic      01/24/06 19:49      
                  Times change      Steve M. Taylor      01/24/06 12:57      
      Irony      Andy Neil      01/23/06 16:14      
         The Windows NT GUI      Sasha Jevtic      01/23/06 16:41      
      The point is      Jez Smith      01/23/06 23:59      
         Architectually ?      Steve M. Taylor      01/24/06 06:05      
         Lindows anyone?      Kalpak Dabir      01/24/06 07:40      
   Worms      Ian Bell      01/25/06 04:26      
      and the moon is made of ?      Erik Malund      01/25/06 06:09      
         Threats to Windows      Ian Bell      01/25/06 08:57      
      Special Linux apps        Jeff Post      01/26/06 09:40      
         con you put that in a post      Erik Malund      01/26/06 09:42      
            Too big      Steve M. Taylor      01/26/06 10:04      
         Special Linux Apps      Ian Bell      01/26/06 14:40      
            A small count OS will typically only hav      Erik Malund      01/26/06 14:49      
               Counting      Ian Bell      01/27/06 04:19      
            8052 simulator      Jeff Post      01/26/06 19:12      
               disassembler      Jan Waclawek      01/27/06 01:25      
                  Linux Disassembler      Ian Bell      01/27/06 04:22      
   what a kerfuffle :-)      Jez Smith      01/25/06 12:44      
   The Transfer is the worst      Neil Kurzman      01/27/06 00:06      
      Transfer      Steve M. Taylor      01/27/06 02:37      

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