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Ian Bell
03/08/06 13:47
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#111647 - Tar with the same brush
Responding to: Jez Smith's previous message
Jez Smith said:
All this consultancy firm were interested in was not what he could do for them but what university he went to and what A levels he got 25 years ago, because they said they wanted to give their customers the impression that their staff had been to the 'right' university. He told them to get stuffed.
This was a firm called PA consulting based in Cambridge enough said..

I worked for PA (PA Technology as it was then) in Cambridge from 1980 to 1987. I learnt an awful lot in that time. It is true, the academic requirements were quite strict, a 2:1 or first from a 'red brick' university. However, some incredibly innovative stuff was done there in record time. Unfortunately, the parent (PA Management Consultants) wanted to change the technology area from product development to 'pure' consultancy (giving advice). The result was a general rebellion by many of the staff. This resulted in the establishment of Scientific Generics, The Technology Partnership (TTP) and several smaller successful product development consultancies all of whom wanted to develop products not give advice.

As a result, we rarely came across PA in the marketplace - we were in different markets although just before I retired in 2000 we started to see them trying for product development contracts again. I was a founder of TTP and I did much of the electronics/software recruitment there and we still used the 2:1/1st red brick criteria when sifting through CVs. As an intellectual baseline it is as relevant now as it was back in 1980.


List of 22 messages in thread
i suggest you read      Erik Malund      03/08/06 10:45      
   Flawed article      Ian Bell      03/08/06 11:17      
      men only      Jan Waclawek      03/08/06 11:28      
         you don;'t know Jack      Erik Malund      03/08/06 12:04      
            you want a laugh?      Jez Smith      03/08/06 12:44      
               Tar with the same brush      Ian Bell      03/08/06 13:47      
                  i dont think so      Jez Smith      03/08/06 23:43      
                     grades???      Jan Waclawek      03/08/06 23:53      
                     Snobbery      Ian Bell      03/09/06 03:37      
                        re grades      Erik Malund      03/09/06 06:46      
                           Graduates      Ian Bell      03/09/06 10:08      
                              yes, but      Erik Malund      03/09/06 10:43      
                                 Value of Education      Ian Bell      03/09/06 13:16      
                                    It is sad, but      Erik Malund      03/09/06 14:27      
                                       Cost of Education      Ian Bell      03/09/06 16:23      
                           gonna get a PhD, or a lobotomy      Andy Peters      03/09/06 10:50      
                              lobotomy? do you like the idea?      Jan Waclawek      03/09/06 11:04      
                              just to clerify      Erik Malund      03/09/06 11:28      
                                 I'm glad you said that ...      Richard Erlacher      03/09/06 23:08      
                           Likewise ...      Richard Erlacher      03/09/06 22:57      
   Correct by construction      Oliver Sedlacek      03/09/06 08:15      
      i do, follow much of it      Erik Malund      03/09/06 09:24      

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