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Ian Bell
03/14/06 16:31
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Northrepps
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#112190 - qualifications
Responding to: Jez Smith's previous message
Jez Smith said:
all this 2:1 from a redbrick university bullshit is just bollocks frankly.

I wish it were, it would make recruitment much easier. I recruited electronics engineers for embedded hardware and software development from 1984 to 2000. I found that of all applicants with a few years post grad experience, the ones with a 2:1 or 1st from a red brick uni were much better than the rest. In that period I recruited 200 engineers, I must have interviewed 2000 of them and read 20,000 CVs.

Of course there are exceptions to every rule, like your friend, but they are few and far between.

The UK education system may well have deteriorated so much in the last 6 years that the degrees from the redbricks are no longer worth the paper they are printed on, in which case what you say may well be true.

Ian

List of 66 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Fresh graduates Job interview      Mahmood Elnasser      03/14/06 14:27      
   well....      Jez Smith      03/14/06 14:31      
      Experience      Ian Bell      03/14/06 14:42      
         Another approach      Mahmood Elnasser      03/14/06 14:48      
            watch the fora      Erik Malund      03/14/06 14:55      
               another case      Mahmood Elnasser      03/14/06 15:02      
         I'm not sure this is bulletproof ...      Richard Erlacher      03/14/06 17:37      
            exactly      Jez Smith      03/15/06 08:42      
   Grades      Ian Bell      03/14/06 14:34      
      thats not the case at all      Jez Smith      03/14/06 14:37      
         you are right      Mahmood Elnasser      03/14/06 14:43      
      Not really      Mahmood Elnasser      03/14/06 14:40      
         The answer is      Jez Smith      03/14/06 14:45      
            qualifications      Ian Bell      03/14/06 16:31      
               Natural Selection?      Andy Neil      03/14/06 17:42      
                  And the sad thing is that after they hav      Erik Malund      03/15/06 06:41      
   candidates for what job?      Neil Kurzman      03/14/06 20:08      
      Well ... back when I was a student ...      Richard Erlacher      03/14/06 22:37      
      Wide range of Jobs      Mahmood Elnasser      03/15/06 11:58      
         generalists      Steve M. Taylor      03/15/06 16:00      
            People Shapes      Ian Bell      03/15/06 16:26      
         There are problems      Richard Erlacher      03/15/06 22:35      
            Not university fault      Mahmood Elnasser      03/16/06 00:42      
               most universitys      Jez Smith      03/16/06 01:08      
               Very true mr Richard      Saif Ullah Khalid      03/16/06 01:22      
               I'm not sure that's true.        Richard Erlacher      03/16/06 09:00      
                  Thats life      Mahmood Elnasser      03/16/06 09:21      
                     Bosses don't      Jeff Post      03/16/06 14:46      
                        Consent      Ian Bell      03/16/06 15:52      
                        Try not to step in the management      Jez Smith      03/16/06 16:03      
                           Technical management      Jeff Post      03/16/06 22:50      
                              The best bosses I've had ...      Richard Erlacher      03/16/06 23:55      
                              said in one sentence by Buddy Norton: "t      Erik Malund      03/17/06 06:36      
                     You're right, of course, That's life      Richard Erlacher      03/16/06 15:54      
                  Technical Guru      Ian Bell      03/16/06 09:48      
                  Usefull      Ian Bell      03/16/06 09:50      
                     mgt!      Andy Peters      03/16/06 16:39      
                        I don't entirely agree or disagree ...      Richard Erlacher      03/17/06 00:08      
                        I don't entirely agree or disagree ...      Richard Erlacher      03/17/06 00:08      
                        sure you can - and you have to      Erik Malund      03/17/06 07:00      
                        Meeting a Schedule      Ian Bell      03/17/06 11:13      
                           Lets face it      Mahmood Elnasser      03/17/06 12:04      
                              Pet topic      Steve M. Taylor      03/17/06 15:02      
                                 I have to agree ... it's a big lie ...      Richard Erlacher      03/17/06 16:34      
                                    the reverse      Erik Malund      03/18/06 10:18      
                                    Hmmm..      Steve M. Taylor      03/18/06 14:19      
                                       It's more than that, ... and less ...      Richard Erlacher      03/18/06 16:46      
                                       One more thing ...      Richard Erlacher      03/18/06 16:57      
                                          that piano player      Terry Lingle      03/19/06 09:29      
                                          Experience      Ian Bell      03/19/06 13:45      
                                             Paraphrase      Steve M. Taylor      03/19/06 14:01      
                                                old generation      Mahmood Elnasser      03/19/06 14:15      
                                                Et tu Brute?      Ian Bell      03/19/06 14:29      
   contd....      Saif Ullah Khalid      03/16/06 01:27      
      Degree or no degree      Mahmood Elnasser      03/16/06 08:10      
         who? what? and another      Erik Malund      03/16/06 08:18      
            and a theif!      Mahmood Elnasser      03/16/06 09:25      
            And      Steve M. Taylor      03/16/06 10:05      
               Read all about it...      Graham Cole      03/20/06 03:23      
   he never said they would make good bosse      Erik Malund      03/16/06 15:31      
   I cannot belive      Nikhil Arora      03/18/06 04:06      
   Shocking!!      Kai Klaas      03/18/06 07:07      
   Good news :)      Mahmood Elnasser      03/23/06 11:28      
      Well, the REAL good news ...      Richard Erlacher      03/23/06 12:13      
         mmm      Mahmood Elnasser      03/23/06 12:24      
            Well, that IS good news!      Richard Erlacher      03/23/06 12:51      

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