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Andy Neil
04/01/09 00:29
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#164115 - Not dead, but not sexy?
Responding to: Lynn Reed's previous message
Lynn Reed said:
I went to the ESC in San Jose. Judging from the show, the 8051 architecture is dead.

I don't think that's a valid conclusion at all!

At these kinds of events, exhibitors always want to concentrate on their latest & greatest; the 8051 isn't going to be "latest & greatest" - but that certainly doesn't mean that it's dead!

I'm sure there were a whole load of other bread-and-butter components that were also not exhibited - RAM, Flash, transistors, resistors, etc - but that doesn't mean that they're moribund!

:-)

List of 71 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
2009 Embedded Systems Conference Trip Report        Lynn Reed      03/31/09 16:43      
   8051 dead?      Russell Bull      03/31/09 23:48      
      I have heard that before      Neil Kurzman      04/01/09 11:07      
         quoting Samuel Clemens      Erik Malund      04/01/09 12:28      
   Not dead, but not sexy?      Andy Neil      04/01/09 00:29      
   Ramtron?      Jan Waclawek      04/01/09 01:26      
      Why is their part so much faster ...      Richard Erlacher      04/01/09 12:35      
         it runs out of FLASH, not FRAM      Jan Waclawek      04/01/09 14:44      
            Which rather kills their own claims for FRAM?      Andy Neil      04/01/09 15:38      
            width of program memory      Erik Malund      04/01/09 15:53      
               4 times as fast      Andy Neil      04/01/09 16:17      
                  It might have to be wider      Richard Erlacher      04/01/09 22:49      
                     Memory acceleration a growing problem      Per Westermark      04/02/09 01:00      
                     Branch prediction?      Christoph Franck      04/02/09 01:29      
                        all these techniques...      Jan Waclawek      04/02/09 12:36      
                           That's why I like the Maxim/Dallas parts      Richard Erlacher      04/02/09 18:03      
                           In that case, BP was optional.      Christoph Franck      04/03/09 04:35      
                              yes, it's the good news, that it's possible at all      Jan Waclawek      04/03/09 04:45      
   Dead? Keil (an ARM company) don't think so!      Andy Neil      04/03/09 04:21      
      That's still their goal ...      Richard Erlacher      04/03/09 07:51      
         native-mode environment      Andy Neil      04/03/09 08:07      
            cross-compilation is king      Per Westermark      04/03/09 08:14      
            I don't follow ...      Richard Erlacher      04/03/09 13:14      
               Follow      Andy Neil      04/13/09 13:59      
                  I still don't know what you meant, Andy ...        Richard Erlacher      04/13/09 14:29      
                     Cheap native compiler normally equals cheap cross-compiler      Per Westermark      04/13/09 15:05      
                        I'm told GCC is about the best there is ...      Richard Erlacher      04/13/09 15:18      
                           It makes little sense      Andy Neil      04/13/09 16:54      
                           I'm told that it may not be...      Andy Neil      04/13/09 17:07      
                     Now I'm confused!      Andy Neil      04/13/09 16:39      
                        I guess it's just a matter of preference.      Richard Erlacher      04/13/09 23:27      
                           Still unsure what your "it" was      Andy Neil      04/14/09 01:10      
                              the IT is in the full implementation.      Richard Erlacher      04/14/09 09:11      
                                 $40 evb's for a fully-implemented ARM      Andy Neil      04/14/09 09:19      
                                    Normally compiling on a PC      Per Westermark      04/14/09 09:43      
                                    Will $49 do?      Andy Neil      04/14/09 12:25      
                                       39      Per Westermark      04/14/09 12:42      
                                          STR9-comSTICK      Andy Neil      04/14/09 14:57      
                                             Well, the goal is to leave the PC out of the picture      Richard Erlacher      04/15/09 11:41      
                                                rephrase      Erik Malund      04/15/09 12:08      
                                                   I must admit, that is quite true ...      Richard Erlacher      04/15/09 12:39      
                                       Well, not quite ...      Richard Erlacher      04/15/09 11:38      
                                          Full complement      Per Westermark      04/15/09 12:13      
                                             Careful, now!      Richard Erlacher      04/15/09 12:48      
                                    What I meant ...      Richard Erlacher      04/15/09 11:18      
         ... which is in turn good news for the chipmakers...      Jan Waclawek      04/03/09 09:49      
            I just bought a new hot-water-heater that's 'net free      Richard Erlacher      04/03/09 13:17      
               yes, we know you love that old stuff ;-)      Jan Waclawek      04/03/09 14:03      
                  old-stuff?      Richard Erlacher      04/03/09 16:15      
                  W2      Andy Peters      04/13/09 11:54      
         Windows for ARM...?      Andy Neil      05/05/09 16:05      
            EEEEEEK!      Richard Erlacher      05/05/09 17:42      
               I knew you'd like it!      Andy Neil      05/05/09 19:15      
            There's already a Windows for ARM.      Christoph Franck      05/06/09 02:38      
   ARM for cheap      Grant Beattie      04/14/09 14:01      
      Cheap ARM vs Expensive 8052      Andy Neil      04/14/09 15:22      
         The cheapest ARM chips can be had for $1      Per Westermark      04/14/09 16:16      
            For hobbyists      Andy Neil      04/15/09 00:33      
         It's getting to be that way, but ...      Richard Erlacher      04/15/09 12:01      
      Yes, that one is pretty close      Richard Erlacher      04/15/09 11:56      
         Don't lock down memory size - just think "good enough"      Per Westermark      04/15/09 12:20      
            No, it should NOT be just that ...      Richard Erlacher      04/15/09 12:59      
               All depending on product and actual product usage      Per Westermark      04/15/09 13:23      
   TI buys Luminary      Russell Bull      05/15/09 00:33      
      Detail (updated)      Andy Neil      05/15/09 00:59      
      What's it like to be taken-over by TI?      Andy Neil      05/15/09 01:37      
         Burr-Brown      Jan Waclawek      05/15/09 03:20      
            Another update for your "family tree"...      Andy Neil      05/15/09 03:50      
               TI had benchmarq too      Neil Kurzman      05/15/09 10:26      
               who ate whom      Jan Waclawek      05/18/09 05:38      
                  Benchmarq -> Unitrode -> TI      Neil Kurzman      05/18/09 13:19      

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