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Per Westermark
02/21/12 08:32
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#186108 - Not so sure about bigger companies have better skills
Responding to: Erik Malund's previous message
I would expect both big and small companies to make incorrect bug claims.

I'm not even convinced that big companies will have a lower percentage. They have lots of managers that wants to know the progress. And that prefers to start alternative tracks as soon as a snag is found. So they may report a potential bug as a side track, while one ormore skilled developers spends more time with the datasheets, the software and the hardware and tries to figure out exactly what is happening.

Next thing is that a big company thinks it likely that the chip manufacturer will listen. So they believe there is a chance to get help even if reporting the issue quite early. A smaller developer (at least the skilled ones) knows that being small is problematic. So they will often try to set together a good test case to be able to prove the existence of the issue. All to balance their tiny weight.

It's just that it is far more important to keep a big customer happy. So there is a stronger incentive to have an application engineer try to try to quickly reproduce the problem.

Next thing is that there are few large companies but a huge number of tiny companies. So all the small companies can together create a "majority vote" about the potential for a bug - they are likely to try every single bit there is in the chip because of the large number of projects they represent.

List of 34 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
So what does "high volume" mean to you?      Andy Neil      02/19/12 02:42      
   1 million sales      JecksonS Ben      02/19/12 04:46      
   Depends too much on product and product value      Per Westermark      02/19/12 08:53      
   In the cellphone market? Millions.      Christoph Franck      02/19/12 10:07      
      50k?      Rob Klein      02/19/12 16:18      
         Report a bug and see what happens:      Christoph Franck      02/20/12 06:02      
            No help from SiLab technical support      Bert Van Den Berg      02/20/12 12:30      
               unusual or changed or ....      Erik Malund      02/20/12 12:47      
                  Response from local distributor      Bert Van Den Berg      02/20/12 17:56      
            Shouldn't be the case?      Andy Neil      02/20/12 16:22      
               It's probably a risk vs. reward thing.      Christoph Franck      02/21/12 00:59      
                  but, at least        Erik Malund      02/21/12 07:33      
               Alas so huge amounts of false bug reports to support      Per Westermark      02/21/12 03:22      
                  a valid point      Erik Malund      02/21/12 07:38      
                     Not so sure about bigger companies have better skills      Per Westermark      02/21/12 08:32      
                     it's difficult to provide persuasive evidence      Richard Erlacher      02/21/12 08:38      
                        to prove a chip defect        Erik Malund      02/21/12 08:54      
                           I'm guessing this happens because of slow response times ...      Richard Erlacher      02/26/12 20:32      
                           I see it from a different angle ...      Richard Erlacher      02/26/12 20:32      
                  RE: huge amounts of false bug reports      Andy Neil      02/21/12 15:54      
                     That's why bug reports must be accompanied by evidence      Richard Erlacher      02/26/12 20:37      
               I have twice had one such case      Erik Malund      02/21/12 07:26      
         that value      JecksonS Ben      02/22/12 01:12      
            Does anyone buy components at a "local" store.      Andy Neil      02/22/12 17:00      
               Not anymore ...      Rob Klein      02/23/12 05:29      
               seems to be the case in Farawayistan      Erik Malund      02/23/12 06:56      
                  Early silicon      Per Westermark      02/23/12 07:10      
                     even better      Erik Malund      02/23/12 07:55      
                  It was common in the U.S. to buy small quantities locally      Richard Erlacher      02/26/12 20:46      
               On-line      JecksonS Ben      02/26/12 23:38      
   High volume usually means low margin.      Christoph Franck      02/20/12 06:07      
      High volume means high profit      JecksonS Ben      02/24/12 01:01      
   Ask this question the mcu manufacturers.      Jan Waclawek      02/20/12 14:08      
   In terms of products:      Christoph Franck      02/21/12 04:28      

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