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Richard Erlacher
10/05/12 16:57
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Denver, Co

#188588 - Not really ...
Responding to: Mahmood Elnasser's previous message
I'm not making a comparison/contrast. I'm merely pointing out that many uncredentialed but very capable programmers are hurting today because of HR people who are underqualaified.

I certainly don't see a point in contrasting or comparing talented programmers on the basis of their formal training.

The very best programmers with whom I've had the privilege of working have, in all cases been either degree-less or with degrees in entirely unrelated fields. Yes, some have been trained in math, or in physics, but I'm not focused on those. I knew one who was a chemist ... in the sense in which it's used in the UK, namely a pharmacist. Another was a school teacher, and at the elementary level. One other that sticks out in my recollection, was an economist.l

I'm not including the EE's who were excellent programmers because their formal education, though it preceded the widespread popularity of computers, was, in a sense, too closely related to fit the model I described.

In reality, I can't remember even one CS graduate with whom I've worked who was, in fact, a really excellent programmer. I doubt that there were none among the people with whom I've worked, but they didn't stand out.


List of 26 messages in thread
someone finally got it      Erik Malund      10/03/12 08:18      
   degrees      Mahmood Elnasser      10/03/12 10:33      
      what caught my attention was ....      Erik Malund      10/03/12 10:58      
         err, uh, well ...      Joseph Hebert      10/03/12 11:31      
            I have interviewed BS, MS recent grads ....      Erik Malund      10/03/12 13:27      
               ITT Tech & DeVry      Joseph Hebert      10/03/12 23:20      
                  BS to PhD      Mahmood Elnasser      10/04/12 02:11      
                     That's SO true       Richard Erlacher      10/04/12 10:19      
                  I'm not sure it's the institution rather than the graduate      Richard Erlacher      10/04/12 10:09      
                     I thins this is it      Erik Malund      10/04/12 10:35      
                        Been There, Done That      Neil Kurzman      10/05/12 10:23      
               I've interviewed a few ...       Richard Erlacher      10/04/12 10:00      
                  I remember      Erik Malund      10/04/12 10:09      
                     This is a common situation, and one that's not always good      Richard Erlacher      10/04/12 10:34      
                        this is odd      Erik Malund      10/04/12 10:39      
                           I'm not so sure it's "odd" at all.      Richard Erlacher      10/05/12 13:03      
                              freelancers      Mahmood Elnasser      10/05/12 14:21      
                                 Not really ...      Richard Erlacher      10/05/12 16:57      
                                    Its been interesting in England recently      Jez Smith      10/06/12 13:21      
                                       The problem with supply and Demand      Neil Kurzman      10/06/12 19:16      
                                          In this country      Jez Smith      10/06/12 23:56      
                                             earning living      Mahmood Elnasser      10/07/12 07:18      
                                             earning living      Mahmood Elnasser      10/07/12 07:18      
                                                the REAL problem is ...       Richard Erlacher      10/08/12 21:41      
                                       you work for ...      Andy Peters      10/10/12 17:59      
                                          Its interesting       Jez Smith      10/10/12 23:32      

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