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Jez Smith
10/21/12 10:08
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#188726 - ah yes but
Responding to: Joseph Hebert's previous message

See maths is much more than just a language, Plato understood that much, it describes our universe so...
does your god understand the maths? it is a simple question, yes or no will suffice

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Thats an old school boy trick it just shows that maths as a language is open to the same misuse and any other, in much the same way that you can say 1+1=3 for large enough values of 1
what i am interested in is does maths describe the universe as it was as you believe, created or is it just a trick are we deluding ourselves to believe that we can ever understand something which is designed by an omnipotent being? which is again an idea which is meaningless from a human perspective.
And does this omnipotent being himself understand how it all works, is your god a mathematician ? being omnipotent can your god set a maths problem which he cannot solve?

If he can set a problem that he cannot solve then he is not omnipotent and if he cannot set a problem which he cannot solve then is he is not omnipotent.

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TopicAuthorDate
oooh you should come and peer at my new blog      Jez Smith      10/20/12 05:13      
   Mine too!      Joseph Hebert      10/20/12 15:12      
      so here is an interesting question for you Joseph      Jez Smith      10/21/12 01:39      
         As a christian       Andy Neil      10/21/12 03:59      
         As a Christian ...      Joseph Hebert      10/21/12 04:38      
            this reminds me ..      Erik Malund      10/21/12 06:45      
               3rd Rewrite      Joseph Hebert      10/21/12 11:25      
            ah yes but      Jez Smith      10/21/12 10:08      
               I only ask because      Jez Smith      10/21/12 10:46      
               My point exactly.      Joseph Hebert      10/21/12 11:42      
                  i have read that and it is a classic      Jez Smith      10/21/12 14:14      
                     anyway you could join this church      Jez Smith      10/21/12 14:39      
                     finding meaning and religion      Joseph Hebert      10/21/12 16:05      
                        I have no idea      Jez Smith      11/01/12 00:57      
                     contradicted in the bible      Erik Malund      10/29/12 11:09      
         You are out of reach of Plato      KONSTANTINOS L. ANGELIS      10/21/12 17:04      
      Hi      Christine Johnson      10/22/12 23:31      
         Likewise      Joseph Hebert      10/23/12 10:25      
            hey Joe      Jez Smith      11/01/12 01:40      
               Belief      Andy Neil      11/01/12 02:47      
                  Ultimately, it comes down to a personal choice      Richard Erlacher      11/01/12 08:58      
                  yes but      Jez Smith      11/01/12 10:33      
                     Roll your own religin      Mahmood Elnasser      11/01/12 15:03      
                  here is my proof      Jez Smith      11/01/12 10:47      
                     just a minute ...       Richard Erlacher      11/01/12 15:41      
               I see.      Joseph Hebert      11/01/12 15:41      
                  Isn't it enough that he's comfortable with his beliefs?      Richard Erlacher      11/01/12 15:55      
                     The whole point Richard      Jez Smith      11/02/12 01:03      
                  No joe      Jez Smith      11/02/12 07:46      
                     logically inconsistent - Jez      Erik Malund      11/02/12 08:14      
                     No, Jez...      Joseph Hebert      11/02/12 09:22      
                        I don't believe because...      Jez Smith      11/02/12 13:36      
                           I see...      Joseph Hebert      11/02/12 15:24      
                           Occams Razor      Joseph Hebert      11/02/12 15:31      
                              elegant, never heard that one before      Erik Malund      11/02/12 15:49      
                                 Not original      Joseph Hebert      11/02/12 16:07      
                              Scientifically simple and Occams razor        Oliver Sedlacek      11/06/12 09:38      
                     No Jez, some more ...      Joseph Hebert      11/02/12 09:57      
                     Why not just let 'em believe what makes 'em comfortable?      Richard Erlacher      11/02/12 12:04      
                        Well normally I would agree with you richard      Jez Smith      11/03/12 02:05      
                           Beware of theories      Josť A. Ruiz      11/03/12 08:16      
                           The danger lies in "US vs THEM"       Richard Erlacher      11/03/12 08:41      
                           Yes, yes, we know. We're all a bunch of nutters, ...      Joseph Hebert      11/03/12 08:49      
                              Careful, now      Richard Erlacher      11/03/12 22:25      
                                 Case in point?      Joseph Hebert      11/04/12 13:49      
                                    Here's a thought ...        Richard Erlacher      11/05/12 15:06      
                                       That's what I thought.      Joseph Hebert      11/05/12 16:35      
                                 I (dis)agree      Erik Malund      11/05/12 07:18      
                                    and it's because of that, that I attend none      Richard Erlacher      11/05/12 15:07      
                                    It'm not painting them all with the same brush      Richard Erlacher      11/11/12 10:13      

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