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Konstantinos L. Angelis
10/21/12 17:04
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#188733 - You are out of reach of Plato
Responding to: Jez Smith's previous message
Jez Smith said:
As a christian
Do you believe that the maths which describes the universe, does it exist outside the universe or come into being because god created everything, does god understand how his universe works or is he above all that kind of thing?
Is in fact reality just some kind of joke?

I ask these questions because although I am an atheist I am interested in what theists believe.

Cos old Plato, he thought that maths and numbers existed independently or the world, as real entities. Hence Platonic relationships being pure and unsullied by throbing lust


You are out of reach of Plato

This kind of sentences are described in Plato native language as "hybris" and "blasfemy".

If you study Anaxagortas, Demokritos, Diogenis, Plato, Aristoteles, Hrakleitos, Epikouros, Archimedes, Zenon, Thales, Pythagoras, Socrates and a all the other philosophers of that time the existence of "theion" is true among all of them.

Konstantinos L. Angelis


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TopicAuthorDate
oooh you should come and peer at my new blog      Jez Smith      10/20/12 05:13      
   Mine too!      Joseph Hebert      10/20/12 15:12      
      so here is an interesting question for you Joseph      Jez Smith      10/21/12 01:39      
         As a christian       Andy Neil      10/21/12 03:59      
         As a Christian ...      Joseph Hebert      10/21/12 04:38      
            this reminds me ..      Erik Malund      10/21/12 06:45      
               3rd Rewrite      Joseph Hebert      10/21/12 11:25      
            ah yes but      Jez Smith      10/21/12 10:08      
               I only ask because      Jez Smith      10/21/12 10:46      
               My point exactly.      Joseph Hebert      10/21/12 11:42      
                  i have read that and it is a classic      Jez Smith      10/21/12 14:14      
                     anyway you could join this church      Jez Smith      10/21/12 14:39      
                     finding meaning and religion      Joseph Hebert      10/21/12 16:05      
                        I have no idea      Jez Smith      11/01/12 00:57      
                     contradicted in the bible      Erik Malund      10/29/12 11:09      
         You are out of reach of Plato      KONSTANTINOS L. ANGELIS      10/21/12 17:04      
      Hi      Christine Johnson      10/22/12 23:31      
         Likewise      Joseph Hebert      10/23/12 10:25      
            hey Joe      Jez Smith      11/01/12 01:40      
               Belief      Andy Neil      11/01/12 02:47      
                  Ultimately, it comes down to a personal choice      Richard Erlacher      11/01/12 08:58      
                  yes but      Jez Smith      11/01/12 10:33      
                     Roll your own religin      Mahmood Elnasser      11/01/12 15:03      
                  here is my proof      Jez Smith      11/01/12 10:47      
                     just a minute ...       Richard Erlacher      11/01/12 15:41      
               I see.      Joseph Hebert      11/01/12 15:41      
                  Isn't it enough that he's comfortable with his beliefs?      Richard Erlacher      11/01/12 15:55      
                     The whole point Richard      Jez Smith      11/02/12 01:03      
                  No joe      Jez Smith      11/02/12 07:46      
                     logically inconsistent - Jez      Erik Malund      11/02/12 08:14      
                     No, Jez...      Joseph Hebert      11/02/12 09:22      
                        I don't believe because...      Jez Smith      11/02/12 13:36      
                           I see...      Joseph Hebert      11/02/12 15:24      
                           Occams Razor      Joseph Hebert      11/02/12 15:31      
                              elegant, never heard that one before      Erik Malund      11/02/12 15:49      
                                 Not original      Joseph Hebert      11/02/12 16:07      
                              Scientifically simple and Occams razor        Oliver Sedlacek      11/06/12 09:38      
                     No Jez, some more ...      Joseph Hebert      11/02/12 09:57      
                     Why not just let 'em believe what makes 'em comfortable?      Richard Erlacher      11/02/12 12:04      
                        Well normally I would agree with you richard      Jez Smith      11/03/12 02:05      
                           Beware of theories      Josť A. Ruiz      11/03/12 08:16      
                           The danger lies in "US vs THEM"       Richard Erlacher      11/03/12 08:41      
                           Yes, yes, we know. We're all a bunch of nutters, ...      Joseph Hebert      11/03/12 08:49      
                              Careful, now      Richard Erlacher      11/03/12 22:25      
                                 Case in point?      Joseph Hebert      11/04/12 13:49      
                                    Here's a thought ...        Richard Erlacher      11/05/12 15:06      
                                       That's what I thought.      Joseph Hebert      11/05/12 16:35      
                                 I (dis)agree      Erik Malund      11/05/12 07:18      
                                    and it's because of that, that I attend none      Richard Erlacher      11/05/12 15:07      
                                    It'm not painting them all with the same brush      Richard Erlacher      11/11/12 10:13      

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