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Richard Erlacher
11/01/12 15:41
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Denver, Co
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#188751 - just a minute ...
Responding to: Jez Smith's previous message
You rely on modifications of religious symbols belonging to only one religious path, namely the Judao-Christian one. What about the far-eastern religions? For centuries, people from the "West" have been telling them that what they believe and has worked for them for many thousands of years is "wrong" and that they should take up the much newer sets of beliefs that the "West" has adopted, in which it's more or less OK to kill to get some other culture's wealth and property, but it's not OK to be happy with what little they've got. I do have some trouble with that practice.

I'm persuaded that, until we've settled our own culture down to some modicum of peace and prosperity, we shouldn't dispatch people to proselytize, whether for religion, politics, or economics. It's clear that the "Western" systems are just as flawed as the "others".

The only thing that we seem to prefer in the "West" is the freedom to believe that everyone else is wrong.

While I've no problem with you or anyone else believing or disbelieving whatever you prefer, I do have a problem with someone else trying to change it. Even the Muslims, presently subject of much information and misinformation about their practices such as "forcing" their beliefs on everyone else, "otherwise they kill them," have a much more tolerant "official" position with adherents to other faiths than do the "Westerners", particularly in the U.S. There's room for debate about the accuracy of the information bandied about as well as the actual practices of some branches of their faith. It's perfectly obvious that rabid fundamentalists in the West are just as intolerant of their competitors, though they don't go about murdering them. The behaviors of religious entities within the U.S. seems to make it apparent that they are, simply put, like any other business. Large or small, they tend to move in the direction of maximal revenue. I've long believed that organized religion is just another way to get between you and hour sheckels. That's one reason I don't believe religious organizations should be tax exempt.

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TopicAuthorDate
oooh you should come and peer at my new blog      Jez Smith      10/20/12 05:13      
   Mine too!      Joseph Hebert      10/20/12 15:12      
      so here is an interesting question for you Joseph      Jez Smith      10/21/12 01:39      
         As a christian       Andy Neil      10/21/12 03:59      
         As a Christian ...      Joseph Hebert      10/21/12 04:38      
            this reminds me ..      Erik Malund      10/21/12 06:45      
               3rd Rewrite      Joseph Hebert      10/21/12 11:25      
            ah yes but      Jez Smith      10/21/12 10:08      
               I only ask because      Jez Smith      10/21/12 10:46      
               My point exactly.      Joseph Hebert      10/21/12 11:42      
                  i have read that and it is a classic      Jez Smith      10/21/12 14:14      
                     anyway you could join this church      Jez Smith      10/21/12 14:39      
                     finding meaning and religion      Joseph Hebert      10/21/12 16:05      
                        I have no idea      Jez Smith      11/01/12 00:57      
                     contradicted in the bible      Erik Malund      10/29/12 11:09      
         You are out of reach of Plato      KONSTANTINOS L. ANGELIS      10/21/12 17:04      
      Hi      Christine Johnson      10/22/12 23:31      
         Likewise      Joseph Hebert      10/23/12 10:25      
            hey Joe      Jez Smith      11/01/12 01:40      
               Belief      Andy Neil      11/01/12 02:47      
                  Ultimately, it comes down to a personal choice      Richard Erlacher      11/01/12 08:58      
                  yes but      Jez Smith      11/01/12 10:33      
                     Roll your own religin      Mahmood Elnasser      11/01/12 15:03      
                  here is my proof      Jez Smith      11/01/12 10:47      
                     just a minute ...       Richard Erlacher      11/01/12 15:41      
               I see.      Joseph Hebert      11/01/12 15:41      
                  Isn't it enough that he's comfortable with his beliefs?      Richard Erlacher      11/01/12 15:55      
                     The whole point Richard      Jez Smith      11/02/12 01:03      
                  No joe      Jez Smith      11/02/12 07:46      
                     logically inconsistent - Jez      Erik Malund      11/02/12 08:14      
                     No, Jez...      Joseph Hebert      11/02/12 09:22      
                        I don't believe because...      Jez Smith      11/02/12 13:36      
                           I see...      Joseph Hebert      11/02/12 15:24      
                           Occams Razor      Joseph Hebert      11/02/12 15:31      
                              elegant, never heard that one before      Erik Malund      11/02/12 15:49      
                                 Not original      Joseph Hebert      11/02/12 16:07      
                              Scientifically simple and Occams razor        Oliver Sedlacek      11/06/12 09:38      
                     No Jez, some more ...      Joseph Hebert      11/02/12 09:57      
                     Why not just let 'em believe what makes 'em comfortable?      Richard Erlacher      11/02/12 12:04      
                        Well normally I would agree with you richard      Jez Smith      11/03/12 02:05      
                           Beware of theories      Josť A. Ruiz      11/03/12 08:16      
                           The danger lies in "US vs THEM"       Richard Erlacher      11/03/12 08:41      
                           Yes, yes, we know. We're all a bunch of nutters, ...      Joseph Hebert      11/03/12 08:49      
                              Careful, now      Richard Erlacher      11/03/12 22:25      
                                 Case in point?      Joseph Hebert      11/04/12 13:49      
                                    Here's a thought ...        Richard Erlacher      11/05/12 15:06      
                                       That's what I thought.      Joseph Hebert      11/05/12 16:35      
                                 I (dis)agree      Erik Malund      11/05/12 07:18      
                                    and it's because of that, that I attend none      Richard Erlacher      11/05/12 15:07      
                                    It'm not painting them all with the same brush      Richard Erlacher      11/11/12 10:13      

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