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Andy Neil
01/11/13 06:19
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Basingstoke
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#189132 - $$$
Responding to: Kalpak Dabir's previous message
Kalpak Dabir said:
if Keil is part of ARM, shouldn't the tool chain be a lot cheaper now?

Actually, I think the Keil ARM toolchain is cheaper now than it used to be when you had to buy it from ARM!

We are in a way paying for the tool via the the chips we buy.

I think that's exactly what they want to avoid!

The people that ARM - like any of the semiconductor manufacturers - are really interested in is the people buying chips by the million. These people do not want the silicon price to be in any way supporting the tool price! For these people, it only makes sense to pay for the tools and have no loading on the silicon price.

I suspect it only the price of top class tools of ARM that is keeping non ARM chip makers alive.

I think the price of the basic Keil ARM toolchain is comparable to the PK51 toolchain for 8051 - so I don't think that argument really works?


List of 38 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Stellaris Arm Tools      Michael Karas      01/06/13 00:04      
   Me too ... and I agree ... it looks promising      Richard Erlacher      01/06/13 00:49      
      These you mean?      Mahmood Elnasser      01/06/13 07:48      
         when I ordered mine ...       Richard Erlacher      01/06/13 12:53      
            when I ordered mine ...      Michael Karas      01/06/13 15:43      
         Current Price      Michael Karas      01/06/13 15:52      
      a "standard" GCC       Andy Neil      01/06/13 08:36      
   CCS      Mahmood Elnasser      01/06/13 08:10      
      No, I don't think that's right      Andy Neil      01/06/13 08:29      
   What does the TI Code Composer Studio actually consist of?       Andy Neil      01/06/13 08:34      
      Your Development      Michael Karas      01/06/13 15:41      
         RE: Your Development      Andy Neil      01/06/13 16:59      
            Keil MDK      Mahmood Elnasser      01/07/13 00:20      
               RE: Keil MDK      Andy Neil      01/07/13 04:05      
                  Are we paying twice?      Kalpak Dabir      01/11/13 03:27      
                     $$$      Andy Neil      01/11/13 06:19      
   Keil "evaluation" now called "Lite" & OK for commercial use        Andy Neil      01/06/13 08:42      
      That was a contributing factor in my decision to buy      Richard Erlacher      01/07/13 10:31      
         RE: VGA      Andy Neil      01/07/13 11:16      
            As I wrote ...       Richard Erlacher      01/08/13 00:55      
               Historical interface connections...      Andy Neil      01/08/13 01:03      
                  There are reasons ...       Richard Erlacher      01/08/13 15:39      
                     Here's one      Richard Erlacher      01/10/13 11:13      
                     KVM switches      Andy Neil      01/10/13 23:50      
                        Those Adapters      Michael Karas      01/11/13 04:50      
                           I thought as much!      Andy Neil      01/11/13 06:22      
                              Some USB adapters only "sort-of" work ...      Richard Erlacher      01/11/13 19:24      
                                 Don't shoot the pianist      Andy Neil      01/12/13 04:44      
                                    While I agree, mostly ...       Richard Erlacher      01/12/13 21:54      
                                       says who?      Erik Malund      01/13/13 06:47      
                                          OK ... I meant "useful to me."      Richard Erlacher      01/13/13 13:05      
                                    Have you ever ESD tested USB kit?      Oliver Sedlacek      01/14/13 05:17      
            Here's one example ...       Richard Erlacher      01/13/13 17:50      
   FYI - open source tools      Andy Neil      01/08/13 00:55      
      Thanks for the link!      Richard Erlacher      01/08/13 00:58      
      Thanks....but what gives?      Michael Karas      01/08/13 01:25      
         RE: what gives?      Andy Neil      01/08/13 02:24      
            I find the info on the TI site rather confusing      Richard Erlacher      01/08/13 15:42      

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