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Dan Henry
07/23/05 12:41
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Boulder, Co

#97882 - My $0.02 USD
Responding to: Craig Steiner's previous message
Craig Steiner said:
But if there are any ideas out there of how we can improve things by all means let me know. Anything that can make the forum more enjoyable and reduce the amount of time I spend dealing with "politics" is something that I'm definitely in favor of!

When I have thought about the notion of Forum moderation and karma/scoring from time to time, I always end up comparing it to Usenet Newsgroups -- an 'older' (Internet-wise) means of discussion 'forum'. Some observations:
  • Very few moderated newsgroups exist, but because Usenet is not site-based, moderation has to be done in a manner that, by its very nature, prevents flame wars, off-topic posts, etc.

  • The vast majority of newsgroups are unmoderated, so anything goes.

  • Usenet provides no flame protection (with the exception of the aforementioned moderated newsgroups).

  • Usenet has kooks, loons, trolls, etc., just like we have seen on this forum.

  • Usenet does not insulate readers from 'homework' or 'gimme code' types.

  • Usenet provides no means to attribute a score or karma to a post or a poster. Contributors develop a reputation as a natural consequence of what they post.

If this forum were to change the scoring/karma system, my input would be to attribute scores to threads/posts, not members.

Regarding off-topic threads/posts, I don't have a big problem with them as long as I can quickly identify them so that I can choose to not read them. To that end, how about?
  • Any member scoring a thread's root post with OT, flags the thread as OT until a moderator overrides that designation.

  • Any member scoring a subsequent post in the thread OT, flags that post as OT until a moderator overrides that designation.

I am not suggesting more moderation for that, just that a moderator can permanently override a member's OT score when necessary.

Craig Steiner said:
... I do not enjoy having to administer or moderate this forum.

I'd say to moderate only as much as you want. If 'homework' slips in, so be it. Let flame wars flame on if you want -- they typically only hurt the flamers' reputations.

List of 45 messages in thread
Unfair Moderation.      Prahlad J. Purohit      07/22/05 22:32      
   Flashback: Forum moderation & karma        Craig Steiner      07/23/05 00:24      
      Tougher line      Donald Catto      07/23/05 05:33      
      My $0.02 USD      Dan Henry      07/23/05 12:41      
      Re: Flashback forum moderation and karma      Prahlad J. Purohit      07/24/05 02:36      
      Comments to Craig      David Smith      07/24/05 04:12      
         I think you are right - David      Raghunathan      07/24/05 05:46      
      Status Quo      Raghunathan      07/24/05 06:03      
         In favour of the existing moderation      Jerson Fernandes      07/24/05 08:50      
      Painful truth...      Kai Klaas      07/24/05 08:31      
         The thread      Steve M. Taylor      07/24/05 08:52      
            Kai,Steve      Mehdi      07/24/05 10:10      
            Thread closing was unsuited!      Kai Klaas      07/24/05 12:32      
               ?      Steve M. Taylor      07/24/05 13:08      
               Changing thread-closure policy      Craig Steiner      07/24/05 13:30      
                  I don't understand...      Jan Waclawek      07/24/05 17:02      
                     Nope      Craig Steiner      07/24/05 18:22      
                     Losing posts      Terry Lingle      07/24/05 18:24      
                        Other issues      David Smith      07/26/05 03:31      
                  Yes      Kai Klaas      07/24/05 18:49      
                     Hmmm      Craig Steiner      07/24/05 18:57      
         Very Painful Indeed.      Prahlad J. Purohit      07/24/05 09:01      
            credit where its due      Steve M. Taylor      07/24/05 09:14      
               Mike's      Terry Lingle      07/24/05 10:11      
            Letting Michael go      Craig Steiner      07/24/05 13:19      
         Reason for Michael's leaving      Craig Steiner      07/24/05 13:01      
   don't give in      James Hinnant      07/23/05 00:36      
      not Prahlad      James Hinnant      07/23/05 01:24      
   Old Boys Club debunked      Craig Steiner      07/23/05 02:00      
   Olb Boys Club ailive and well.      Charles Bannister      07/23/05 05:35      
      beware of the plank      Steve M. Taylor      07/23/05 06:01      
         karma      Terry Lingle      07/23/05 09:13      
      If you say so      Craig Steiner      07/23/05 09:57      
         Pot calling Kettle...?      Andy Neil      08/01/05 18:35      
   Who cares ?        Peter Dannegger      07/23/05 11:02      
      I do      Jan Waclawek      07/23/05 15:19      
         You're missing the point.      Andy Neil      08/01/05 19:27      
   Karma is a good actuator !      Mehdi      07/23/05 21:13      
   Moderation      Ian Bell      07/24/05 05:32      
   Two things.      José Félix Díaz Ivorra      07/24/05 08:28      
      Re: Two Things.      Prahlad J. Purohit      07/24/05 08:34      
         Karma for messages, not people      Craig Steiner      07/24/05 13:03      
            made sense to me      Andy Neil      08/01/05 11:52      
               We'll see      Craig Steiner      08/01/05 13:02      
      That's the reason for karma      Craig Steiner      07/24/05 12:33      

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